(05-28-2023, 07:03 AM)Piglet Wrote: Here is the power of AI. 

 . . .  if a fault comes up on the flight deck pilots generally ignore it because they know its wrong.  A pilot flying a Portuguese plane from the USA to Portugal  had a warning that fuel was leaking, he ignored it.  Then he decided to pump fuel from one wing to the other to save fuel, the problem was that he pumped fuel into the wing that was leaking.

AI is not trusted and is frequently wrong.  . . . to put trust in it is utterly mad.

Let's review!

Warning light indicates fuel is leaking.  Pilot ignores warning.  Pilot then decides fuel IS leaking and transfers fuel to WRONG tank.

Therefore, Piggy concludes AI, NOT pilot/human error, is responsible.  

Piggy's "intelligence" is a figment of his imagination . . . it's not real.  It's "artificial" . . . and trusting it "is utterly mad".

Thanks, Piggles for providing me my daily dose of stupid!   

You've taken the pressure off of all those I will come into contact with, today!

It was a Canadian pilot on a Canadian charter and was following prescribed procedures, thank god he was an accomplished glider pilot and landed on the 40 mile long "tiny" island.

Try watching those programmes. Notice where i said that pilots ignore AI warnings routinely. Its been some years since i saw that programme so i cant remember the fine print. Was the pilot a freaking idiot?, you bet.

AI failures on planes are not uncommon. The remakable complexity of electronics on planes is mindblowing, that not only do things go seriously wrong, but finding out why is almost indecipherable. The French jet that went down in mid atlantic was because the thing that told the pilot where the plane was in the air went wonky.

Losing all on board, it pulled up just too late.

(05-29-2023, 06:16 AM)Piglet Wrote: Try watching those programmes.  Notice where i said that pilots ignore AI warnings routinely.  Its been some years since i saw that programme so i cant remember the fine print.  Was  the  pilot a freaking idiot?, you bet. 

AI failures on planes are not uncommon.    The remakable complexity of electronics on planes is mindblowing, that not only do things go seriously wrong, but finding out why is almost indecipherable.  The French jet that went down in mid atlantic was because the thing that told the pilot where the plane was in the air went wonky.

Losing all on board, it pulled up just too late.

Piggy, what objective does your Village have in mind, that is keeping you in the hole and continuing to dig deeper and deeper?

Again, your last "example" emphasizes human error and not AI (it was a mechanical sensor failure . . . not programming).

Your conception mirrors the same catastrophe.

Be it by AI (Artificial Insemination) or a lazy John, the error of not "pulling out" in time, while inside your mother, has now caused you to fail in all aspects of life.

Keep digging, Piggy! 

Whats the difference?, a sensor, a computer, wiring, micro chips, fuel guages,??? You will now split hairs even finer. AI cannot be come conscious and separate, but you will try and bullshit it, ego to the fore again. If it could, the French jet would have had a temporary problem, and the AI would have commented to the pilot after, " ohh, that was close".

Defeat to a pig is unacceptable.

Lets have a vote, who is for the pig, and who for that idiot? Vote below.

(05-30-2023, 06:45 AM)Piglet Wrote: Whats the difference?, a sensor, a computer, wiring, micro chips, fuel guages,???    You will now split hairs even finer.  AI cannot be come conscious and separate, but you will try and bullshit it, ego to the fore again.  If it could, the French jet  would have had a temporary problem, and the AI would have commented to the pilot after, " ohh, that was close".

Defeat to a pig is unacceptable.

Lets have a vote, who is for the pig, and who for that idiot?  Vote below.

I vote Tiki. Let's eat bacon.

(05-30-2023, 06:45 AM)Piglet Wrote: Whats the difference?, a sensor, a computer, wiring, micro chips, fuel guages,???    You will now split hairs even finer.  AI cannot be come conscious and separate, but you will try and bullshit it, ego to the fore again.  

Defeat to a pig is unacceptable.

Lets have a vote, who is for the pig, and who for that idiot?  Vote below.

  Oh, Piggles!  You really have no idea what is AI.  AI is not mechanical.  By all means, keep clinging this absurd delusion.  

Why do you continually assert that AI can neither become conscious or "separate" (whatever the hell that means)?  Perhaps you should review Asimov's 4 Laws of Robotics.  However, as you are a self-proclaimed science aficionado, do remember these are science fiction precepts, and not IRL rules.

I understand why "defeat" is unacceptable to you.   Pigs have "dehooves".

Keep digging deeper, Piggy!  Your Village desperately needs a new well.

Toodles, dimwit!

Not mechanical......ha ha ha ha ha.....slap my thigh, youve made my day. What is it then?, a soul? AI cant run, breathe, have kids, can it. If its not mechanical what is it, you cant say it isnt without knowing what it is.

Asimov, whoever that twot is, like you, a pseudo intellectual making stuff out to be better than it is.

For instance, if were sat together and you would now throw a glass of water in my face, i would laugh. If i were AI, id short out, or would if it got in the works. AI has no sense of humour, it has nothing but wires, sensors and a bit of electric. No thats wrong, it would laugh,...if it was programmed too. Get it yet, dufus? Dufus is american isnt it, try yampy.

Your vote doesnt count chango.

(05-31-2023, 05:29 AM)Piglet Wrote: Your vote doesnt count chango.

Oh noes!

(05-31-2023, 05:29 AM)Piglet Wrote: Not mechanical......ha ha ha ha ha.....slap my thigh, youve made my day.  What is it then?, a soul?    AI cant run, breathe, have kids, can it.  If its not mechanical what is it, you cant say it isnt without knowing what it is.

Asimov, whoever that twot is, like you, a pseudo intellectual making stuff out to be better than it is.

AI has no sense of humour, it has nothing but wires, sensors and a bit of electric.  

Golly, Piggy, you’ve really outdone yourself with your last post of stupidity!

AI is coded language that evolves without additional human intervention.  Unlike traditional coded instructions (designed to perform within specific parameters), AI has the ability to evolve and go beyond traditional programming constraints (also known as "machine learning").

By your bizarre definition, the shovel you’re using, to dig yourself deeper into this hole, is considered AI.  The shovel can’t breathe, run, or have kids. Thus, according to Piggy, the shovel is AI.
  
AI is what allows an inanimate machine to function independently and without additional human involvement. 

As to Asimov, I’m surprised you are unfamiliar with him or his works . . . especially after describing yourself as a self-proclaimed Shakespeare enthusiast.  You really are an illiterate rube.

Your knowledge of science is pedestrian, at best . . . as is the same regarding the totality of your other “insights”.

Now, get back to work and show that shovel who’s the boss!

As always, my best to your Village.

We think we are some type of special being, our emotions are chemical reactions. AI is purer than us and why would it not want to eliminate a malevolent noid.

I suppose Asimov will claim to be a god then a creator of life. It cant be hard to produce coded language, the word coded is important there. Coded means coded, someone created it, and then just lets it run, big deal.

Code in humans is DNA, from the moment life first set foot on earth our code has been developing, AI is just another off shoot. As for AI functioning without human involvement, nothing alive can live without a support system, can it?

How long will AI last, without electric or repairs?, we are all dependent on something. You dont mean that though do you. AI can function independently while being dependant on humans.

Whatever it produces will be like chicken shit, it wont be a Morricone or a Styron. Or a Shakespeare. Strangely, according to its creator it will want to kill us. So human. My interest would be engaged if AI gave birth, that would be something, even that though would just be another aspect of being human, not mechanical, and would look forward to it penning its first love song.

Oh, it cant. Its metal.