I don't want to bury my head in the sand either. I need to try to stay focused on what is important at the moment and what actions I can do. I want to keep myself a little bit agitated, but not overly agitated where I become useless.

I know too many people who are already dropping off-like all the way off and I will mention something and they will say, "WHAT? HE SAID THAT?" or "WHAT? THAT HAPPENED?!" and it pisses me off.

Each person has to live thier peace, but I would hope they would find a way to still stay informed. Its really difficult tho, I get it.

(05-16-2025, 10:08 PM)username Wrote: The whole is the sum of the parts. I think the strategy (if there is one) is just to overwhelm us so we DON’T focus on any one particular atrocity/constitutional violation/law or norm breaking violation.

Sadly.

I make myself read about or listen to them. They are overwhelming but while I want to/I don’t want to bury my head in the sand over any.

I think we need to try and mobilize people to stand up to the evil, which entails helping them to believe that it can be beaten, and helping them understand what will happen if it isn't beaten. There are orgs doing this, Jewish Voice for Peace is one. I'm not a group person but I don't think there's much of a choice at this point if we want to be successful.

(05-16-2025, 09:25 PM)MirahM Wrote: I saw a video of him talking to the Crown Prince.
I have never ever heard him praise someone more.

Yeah he left self toner all over that guys ass.

I feel so strongly about a lot of this bullshit that if I saw anyone associated with maga in distress I would turn and go in the opposite direction. I wouldn't lift a finger to help. There was a time I wouldn't have dared give voice to that, but I no longer care. It's never been my nature to be so uncaring, until now, until trump and those who support & defend him. I felt terrible about feeling this way until a psychologist said it was a natural reaction to what we all were seeing & hearing and it would have been more abnormal to not give any of that another thought.

If a car crashed and had a Trump sticker you wouldn't try to save them or the kids?

I thought I was clear in my statement, apparently not. I'll quote myself for your benefit--"I would turn and go in the opposite direction. I wouldn't lift a finger to help". Got it?

(05-16-2025, 11:02 PM)rothschild Wrote:

(05-16-2025, 10:08 PM)username Wrote: The whole is the sum of the parts. I think the strategy (if there is one) is just to overwhelm us so we DON’T focus on any one particular atrocity/constitutional violation/law or norm breaking violation.

Sadly.

I make myself read about or listen to them. They are overwhelming but while I want to/I don’t want to bury my head in the sand over any.

I think we need to try and mobilize people to stand up to the evil, which entails helping them to believe that it can be beaten, and helping them understand what will happen if it isn't beaten. There are orgs doing this, Jewish Voice for Peace is one. I'm not a group person but I don't think there's much of a choice at this point if we want to be successful.

Yes.
There are several groups and organizations forming.

(Yesterday, 07:37 AM)Duchess Wrote: I feel so strongly about a lot of this bullshit that if I saw anyone associated with maga in distress I would turn and go in the opposite direction. I wouldn't lift a finger to help. There was a time I wouldn't have dared give voice to that, but I no longer care. It's never been my nature to be so uncaring, until now, until trump and those who support & defend him. I felt terrible about feeling this way until a psychologist said it was a natural reaction to what we all were seeing & hearing and it would have been more abnormal to not give any of that another thought.

I would rather think about what I can do instead of what I won't do. 

But I get what you are saying.

(Yesterday, 08:02 AM)BigMark Wrote: If a car crashed and had a Trump sticker you wouldn't try to save them or the kids?

Trump is a fucking clown and Biden is a corrupt, old senile politician. I would try to help no matter which sticker was on the car because that's what any normal person would do. She's not normal.

These are hypothetical situations that haven't happened and are probably not going to happen anyway.

It feels pointless to me to discuss and judge someone on something that hasn't happened.

(Yesterday, 11:45 AM)MirahM Wrote: These are hypothetical situations that haven't happened and are probably not going to happen anyway.

It feels pointless to me to discuss and judge someone on something that hasn't happened.

Also, here is another side I find myself wastefuly thinking about.
I think that some of my neighbors would not hesitate to turn me in if it came down to turning in neighbors who don't support the President.
I think some of my neighbors wouldn't hesitate to turn me in if it came down to them thinking I was harboring an immigrant and the authorities were in town.

(Yesterday, 11:42 AM)sally Wrote:

(Yesterday, 08:02 AM)BigMark Wrote: If a car crashed and had a Trump sticker you wouldn't try to save them or the kids?

Trump is a fucking clown and Biden is a corrupt, old senile politician. I would try to help no matter which sticker was on the car because that's what any normal person would do. She's not normal.

You present that as if trump and those who support & defend him ARE normal, they aren't and I don't owe them any goddamn thing least of all a helping hand. Give me a fuckin break, trump supporter and defender. 

Continue to hide out inside the perimeter of your own property, Sal, like that's any different from my stance. Grow the fuck up.

You grow the fuck up. I hate Biden/ Harris, but I wouldn't just drive by a family trapped in a burning car and flick them off because they had a stupid sticker on the car. That's you, not me. I don't give a fuck who votes for what piece of shit for what reason. I might think they're stupid, but it doesn't infuriate me.

Yeah the stupidest shit on the internet today right here.

That can only be said by someone who isn't out & around because I can assure it definitely isn't the stupidest shit I've seen today.

I was out and around today, everyone was just acting normal lol. Or do you mean the media?

(Yesterday, 07:37 AM)Duchess Wrote: I feel so strongly about a lot of this bullshit that if I saw anyone associated with maga in distress I would turn and go in the opposite direction. I wouldn't lift a finger to help. There was a time I wouldn't have dared give voice to that, but I no longer care. It's never been my nature to be so uncaring, until now, until trump and those who support & defend him. I felt terrible about feeling this way until a psychologist said it was a natural reaction to what we all were seeing & hearing and it would have been more abnormal to not give any of that another thought.

Hard-heartedness is understandable but it's counterproductive unless you want to be like them, and I see that as defeat. Hard-heartedness is a big part of why the ruling cabal has lost their humanity. Most of the people that support them have no idea who they really are. They don't see what you see, just as you often don't see what I see.

It's the mind that sees, not the eyes. Keep your mind open at all times because a closed mind is a blind mind.

(Yesterday, 11:48 AM)MirahM Wrote:

(Yesterday, 11:45 AM)MirahM Wrote: These are hypothetical situations that haven't happened and are probably not going to happen anyway.

It feels pointless to me to discuss and judge someone on something that hasn't happened.

Also, here is another side I find myself wastefuly thinking about.
I think that some of my neighbors would not hesitate to turn me in if it came down to turning in neighbors who don't support the President.
I think some of my neighbors wouldn't hesitate to turn me in if it came down to them thinking I was harboring an immigrant and the authorities were in town.

Has the Trump admin set up a snitch line? Coming soon if it hasn't.

There is/ was a snitch line in relation to immigrants. ( Illegals as they like to call them)