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- Lady Cop - 12-30-2008
this was broached in another thread and i think it could be thought-provoking...what is your opinion of the death penalty?
- AnonyMoose - 12-30-2008
jackboots Wrote:this was broached in another thread and i think it could be thought-provoking...what is your opinion of the death penalty?
I think that it should exist in cases of capital murder convictions. I also feel that the appeal process should be fine tuned to be more reasonable from a cost perspective. I have read in multiple articles that it is actually less of a burden on taxpayers for someone to have life in prison than to actually be issued the death penalty.
I further believe that the death penalty should also be given for incest, pedophilia, and repeat offenses of spouse abuse where the violent acts are shocking to the community, which I do believe is not a very main-stream view among voters in America.
- Maggot - 12-30-2008
The death penalty should be a deterrent. Until it is broadcast nationally it will not be effective. If people do not see the results that happen when a brutal unthinking murderer is put to the axe they will not be deterred. With DNA what it is today there should be no fine line of the accused guilt or innocence. Only the circumstances should be the deciding factor to live or die.
- Lady Cop - 12-30-2008
there is no axe. only anesthesia. it's not a deterrent, it's a prophylactic.
- AnonyMoose - 12-30-2008
Maggot Wrote:The death penalty should be a deterrent. Until it is broadcast nationally it will not be effective. If people do not see the results that happen when a brutal unthinking murderer is put to the axe they will not be deterred. With DNA what it is today there should be no fine line of the accused guilt or innocence. Only the circumstances should be the deciding factor to live or die.I think the death penalty should exist even if it does not statistically prove itself out to be a deterrant. I just think if someone can NEVER be an asset to society at large it makes no sense for them to exist anymore.
- sally - 12-31-2008
I think the victims family should be able to choose the punishment. I'm also for cruel and unusual punishment for anyone that hurts a child or animal. Thats never going to happen though, so I think life in prison and karma is more suitable than the death penalty.
- Cynical Ninja - 12-31-2008
As long as guilt is 100% assured and certain I am for the return of death by hanging in the UK for the most heinous of crimes, murder, armed robbery, serious sexual offences and multiple offenders.
The death penalty is not a deterrent but it does guarantee that the offender in question will definitely not re-offend that's why I am a supporter of it. .
- AnonyMoose - 12-31-2008
sally Wrote:I think the victims family should be able to choose the punishment. I'm also for cruel and unusual punishment for anyone that hurts a child or animal. Thats never going to happen though, so I think life in prison and karma is more suitable than the death penalty.
Scenario: Man rapes and kills a 10 year old child. The parents, Born Again Christians, pray to Jeebus about their anger and pain,and ask God to help them overcome it. A month later, they are on TV telling the media they forgive the scumbag and are mourning their loss. The man does 20 years because the family didn't want the death penalty. He gets out 20 years later, and within 3 weeks he has raped and killed two more children. Had the first family demanded the death penalty, the two other innocent children are here today.
Karma is NOT a reality. If it was, people like Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Slobodan Milosovic would have "gotten theirs" long before they killed as many as they did.
- Cynical Ninja - 12-31-2008
AnonyMoose Wrote:sally Wrote:I think the victims family should be able to choose the punishment. I'm also for cruel and unusual punishment for anyone that hurts a child or animal. Thats never going to happen though, so I think life in prison and karma is more suitable than the death penalty.
Scenario: Man rapes and kills a 10 year old child. The parents, Born Again Christians, pray to Jeebus about their anger and pain,and ask God to help them overcome it. A month later, they are on TV telling the media they forgive the scumbag and are mourning their loss. The man does 20 years because the family didn't want the death penalty. He gets out 20 years later, and within 3 weeks he has raped and killed two more children. Had the first family demanded the death penalty, the two other innocent children are here today.
Karma is NOT a reality. If it was, people like Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Slobodan Milosovic would have "gotten theirs" long before they killed as many as they did.
Agreed, karma is a concept that has no place in real life, its comforting to the retarded but is ultimately false.
Scoundrels are made kings everyday whilst heroes are buried in unmarked graves, karma is bullplop.
- Lady Cop - 12-31-2008
i attended ted bundy's execution. he probably murdered 100 girls. he went crying and sniveling to the chair.
kiddie killers should pay the ultimate price. that filth john couey buried a little girl alive. i would like to personally tear him limb from limb. here is bundy....
- Duchess - 12-31-2008
That pic is creepy, yet fascinating to me.
- sally - 12-31-2008
AnonyMoose Wrote:I Think cruel and unusual punishment is the only punishment fit for someone who rapes or murders. Thats not the case though, so I meant that the victims family should be able to choose between lethal injection and life without parole. Life without the possibility ofparole would accomplish the same thing as death by keeping society free from the violent criminal. It would also ensure that everyday of the criminals life will be a miserable existence either in protective custody or being beaten or shanked by other inmates. I'm not sure which is worse, that or being euthanized like a beloved pet.sally Wrote:I think the victims family should be able to choose the punishment. I'm also for cruel and unusual punishment for anyone that hurts a child or animal. Thats never going to happen though, so I think life in prison and karma is more suitable than the death penalty.Scenario: Man rapes and kills a 10 year old child. The parents, Born Again Christians, pray to Jeebus about their anger and pain,and ask God to help them overcome it. A month later, they are on TV telling the media they forgive the scumbag and are mourning their loss. The man does 20 years because the family didn't want the death penalty. He gets out 20 years later, and within 3 weeks he has raped and killed two more children. Had the first family demanded the death penalty, the two other innocent children are here today.
Karma is NOT a reality. If it was, people like Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, and Slobodan Milosovic would have "gotten theirs" long before they killed as many as they did.
- Lady Cop - 12-31-2008
LWOP is only so good. if they are alive they can kill others. there are criteria for DP, heinous and aggravated.
victims' families are allowed a victim-impact statement in court. does it sway the judge? i doubt it. the judge has to decide if the crime is worthy of death. then we wait 15 years for the sentence to be imposed. that is the true crime. yes, give them an appeal. in olden days people were wrongfully executed. but now we have DNA and other proofs.
mark schwab...murdered a beautiful little boy in cocoa beach. finally executed. danny rolling...butchered 5 college students. beheaded one girl. finally executed. but it took years! fucking double-tap them when the trial is over.
- Sinister - 12-31-2008
jackboots Wrote:fucking double-tap them when the trial is over.Heh. You and I think so much alike..... ::thumbs::
- Lady Cop - 12-31-2008
Sinister Wrote:jackboots Wrote:fucking double-tap them when the trial is over.Heh. You and I think so much alike..... ::thumbs::
people don't realize how much bikers and cops have in common.
a sense of justice.how about richard allen davis in san Q? he took little Polly Klass out of her own bedroom and raped and murdered her. then gave her Dad the finger in court. why is that filthy trash still alive and asking for pen-pals on his website??
- Sinister - 12-31-2008
jackboots Wrote:a sense of justice.Only our way of dispensing justice is more fun; not hindered by all those pesky laws about over-zealous actions or brutality. Definitely more fun. ::sly::
- sally - 12-31-2008
jackboots Wrote:I wouldnt be against a botched electrocution for that guy. I'd like to watch his eyeballs pop out of his head and be burnt alive.Sinister Wrote:people don't realize how much bikers and cops have in common.jackboots Wrote:fucking double-tap them when the trial is over.Heh. You and I think so much alike..... ::thumbs::
how about richard allen davis in san Q? he took little Polly Klass out of her own bedroom and raped and murdered her. then gave her Dad the finger in court. why is that filthy trash still alive and asking for pen-pals on his website??
- AnonyMoose - 12-31-2008
sally Wrote:I Think cruel and unusual punishment is the only punishment fit for someone who rapes or murders. Thats not the case though, so I meant that the victims family should be able to choose between lethal injection and life without parole. Life without the possibility ofparole would accomplish the same thing as death by keeping society free from the violent criminal. It would also ensure that everyday of the criminals life will be a miserable existence either in protective custody or being beaten or shanked by other inmates. I'm not sure which is worse, that or being euthanized like a beloved pet.You must not understand how prison works. Every day you are still alive in prison is another day a judge can be bribed, an escape can happen, or a governor can give someone a pardon. If they did it, fry them. Then there is no chance of them getting out.
- Lady Cop - 12-31-2008
Sinister Wrote:yeah. i have to write a 43-page 'use of force' report. such as...the asshole shot at me, pulled a knife on me and spit on me and kicked me. he tried to kick out the windows in my cruiser. he called me a whore for the entire 10-mile trip to the jail. so when i got in the jail sally-port i dragged his sorry ass out of my car and threw him on the ground and put my boot on his neck, much to the amusement of the jail staff. i hurt the fucker. boo-hoo. sue me.jackboots Wrote:a sense of justice.Only our way of dispensing justice is more fun; not hindered by all those pesky laws about over-zealous actions or brutality. Definitely more fun. ::sly::
- AnonyMoose - 12-31-2008
jackboots Wrote:yeah. i have to write a 43-page 'use of force' report.
Why was I thinking you were retired and enjoying life on some beach somewhere?