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RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - rothschild - 01-17-2025
Appealing to authority is a logical fallacy. "Experts" are fallible and have biases just like everyone else does. If you think there's incontrovertible proof that Allen is the murderer then provide a link so we can see it. The "experts" I've followed covered a great deal that wasn't presented at trial. If Allen was in some way involved in the murder, he did not act alone.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - Duchess - 01-18-2025
You feel the very same way about the guy who slaughtered those college kids out in Idaho.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - rothschild - 01-18-2025
(01-18-2025, 06:44 AM)Duchess Wrote: You feel the very same way about the guy who slaughtered those college kids out in Idaho.
That's because the probability that he did slaughter those students is very low. There are many inconsistencies in the official narrative, which is why the case hasn't gone to trial.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 01-21-2025
Yeh rothschild, but what if they both did do the murders, or even one, and you are defending murderers? That's where I am coming from. We don't want to see another OJ situation. Especially these young people that had their whole lives. It's so tragic.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - rothschild - 01-21-2025
(01-21-2025, 09:05 AM)aussiefriend Wrote: Yeh rothschild, but what if they both did do the murders, or even one, and you are defending murderers? That's where I am coming from. We don't want to see another OJ situation. Especially these young people that had their whole lives. It's so tragic.
Criminal justice is as corrupt as politics. There's tremendous pressure to dispose of cases quickly because the system has a massive backlog, which is where plea bargaining comes in. Thorough investigation is the exception, not the rule. A prosecutor's career goes nowhere if they don't get convictions without expending large amounts of resources. Poor people are the grist in a mill that has very little to do with justice, but it's a crapshoot for all average people who are innocent, because you're not actually presumed to be innocent unless proven guilty; you're guilty unless you prove your innocence -- unless you happen to be one of the special people who're well-connected and can afford competent legal council, like John and Patsy Ramsey, or Kate and Gerry McCann, who hooked up with a PR firm instead of helping to search for Madeline.
Something else to consider is that if a person is convicted of a crime they did not commit, not only has a life needlessly been destroyed, the guilty person remains at large.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 01-21-2025
I follow True Crime Rocket Science on YouTube. I have been listening to the evidence regarding the Ramseys and the McCanns, there are similarities in their guilty behaviour. That father of JonBenet is a sly dog. It's interesting to hear how they avoided scrutiny.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 02-02-2025
Would be interested if you had checked out True Crime Rocket Science on youtube Rothschild?
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - rothschild - 02-03-2025
(02-02-2025, 10:24 AM)aussiefriend Wrote: Would be interested if you had checked out True Crime Rocket Science on youtube Rothschild?
I've seen a few of his videos. What's his take on the Richard Allen conviction?
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 02-20-2025
YES me too. He thinks the parents killed JonBenet Ramsey and I have been watching his series on that. Analyzing and scrutinizing the evidence. That father is a weird slippery character. ewwwww
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - BigMark - 02-20-2025
I thought the brother did it and the parents covered it up.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 02-20-2025
nah, Daddy has a history of adultery. He controlled all of that. He did it. The cop looked at him when he was behaving odd and he knew she knew he did it. He got out of dodge real quick and then began the games. The kid knows what happened, but nah he didn't do it. She had historical sexual activity and trauma in the vaginal wall.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - rothschild - 02-20-2025
The father may well have sexually abused her but that doesn't seem like a plausible motive to murder her. I think Mark is right.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 02-20-2025
No, I think that was accidental. It looks like the flashlight was the murder weapon. Neighbors heard a child's scream at midnight. The grand jury wanted to indict them. It never happened.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - BigMark - 02-21-2025
What is your hypothesis, she was murdered during molestation by the father?
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 02-23-2025
That's what the evidence points too. The woman helped cover it up. She wrote the stupid note. Autopsy revealed historical signs of vaginal trauma.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - BigMark - 02-23-2025
Sick fuckers.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 02-23-2025
(02-23-2025, 12:49 PM)BigMark Wrote: Sick fuckers.
You know I remember when all that came out, I felt so sorry for them as many of us did. The detective that was there that day, saw the father, his behaviour and they both knew she knew he did it. He has been running around playing the victim ever since. Methinks he protesteth too much.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - BigMark - 02-23-2025
He needs a bullet.
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - rothschild - 02-23-2025
(02-23-2025, 01:07 PM)aussiefriend Wrote:(02-23-2025, 12:49 PM)BigMark Wrote: Sick fuckers.
You know I remember when all that came out, I felt so sorry for them as many of us did. The detective that was there that day, saw the father, his behaviour and they both knew she knew he did it. He has been running around playing the victim ever since. Methinks he protesteth too much.
You haven't explained why he did it. Why would he want to kill his plaything, and do it in a manner that was extremely risky? How did that benefit him?
RE: INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams - aussiefriend - 03-02-2025
(02-23-2025, 04:04 PM)rothschild Wrote:Sexual. I don't think it was deliberate. I think she screamed and was hit on the head with the torch. They think the torch was the murder weapon, she had a fractured skull. Devastating case. The father was a caged dodgy bugger, and he is still out there on Netflix feigning innocence.(02-23-2025, 01:07 PM)aussiefriend Wrote:(02-23-2025, 12:49 PM)BigMark Wrote: Sick fuckers.
You know I remember when all that came out, I felt so sorry for them as many of us did. The detective that was there that day, saw the father, his behaviour and they both knew she knew he did it. He has been running around playing the victim ever since. Methinks he protesteth too much.
You haven't explained why he did it. Why would he want to kill his plaything, and do it in a manner that was extremely risky? How did that benefit him?
When you take the emotion and hysteria out of all of it, and examine it clinically, it fits, it all makes sense. If you want me to find the detective that I was talking about I will find it.