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RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-07-2016



Do any of you Republicans care to address how you're able to support your nominee without actually agreeing with his remarks and stance on every little thing that matters? I'm interested in seeing how that is done. I'd like to see how supporting but not endorsing actually works.



RE: Presidential race 2016 - Midwest Spy - 06-07-2016

My mom & dad have been divorced for 45 years.

They are as politically opposite as people can be.

Bet you can guess who's the Lib and who's the Far Right?

Anyway, talking politics with them is always enlightening as I get to see both extreme views.

My dad is as reasonable a person as I've ever come across. Well educated (law degree from William Mitchell) and seems to really think things through before deciding how he feels about something.

He says he can vote for Trump with no hesitation.

I think his judgement is based solely on how much he can't stand Hillary.

Good news for me here in MN.

It doesn't matter who I vote for because a Dem hasn't lost MN since Reagan, so I'll just abstain.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 11:58 AM)Midwest Spy Wrote: He says he can vote for Trump with no hesitation.

I think his judgement is based solely on how much he can't stand Hillary.


I think we are going to see a lot of that.



RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-07-2016



Aren't any of you Republicans hugely disappointed that your leaders (GOP) didn't have the fortitude to put principal over policy? Look, if I could go out onto the streets and ask these questions I would but you all are the closest I'm going to get to getting an honest answer and I am genuinely interested in your opinion of this.

I honestly do not understand how they can condemn Trump's comments yet fall into line behind him and give him support. I had hoped Paul Ryan would take a stand but unfortunately he did little more than roll over like a dog.



RE: Presidential race 2016 - Blindgreed1 - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 12:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Aren't any of you Republicans hugely disappointed that your leaders (GOP) didn't have the fortitude to put principal over policy? Look, if I could go out onto the streets and ask these questions I would but you all are the closest I'm going to get to getting an honest answer and I am genuinely interested in your opinion of this.

I honestly do not understand how they can condemn Trump's comments yet fall into line behind him and give him support. I had hoped Paul Ryan would take a stand but unfortunately he did little more than roll over like a dog.
I'm not a republican. Sometimes I side with the right and sometimes with the left. I'm about as middle of the road as one can be. I just can't get behind a lying crook like Hilary. Hilary said she wouldn't attack Sanders, shocker, another lie. If I had to vote now, I'd probably vote Johnson.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - FAHQTOO - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 11:44 AM)Duchess Wrote:

Do any of you Republicans care to address how you're able to support your nominee without actually agreeing with his remarks and stance on every little thing that matters? I'm interested in seeing how that is done. I'd like to see how supporting but not endorsing actually works.

I support Donald because I hate Hillary more. I don't see why that's so hard to understand. That doesn't mean I agree with (hardly anything) he says, it means I hate her more. That's the bottom line for me anyway.
I really don't give a shit at this point what the gop leaders have to say.
The two dirty turds we have to pick from is the fault of the party leaders on both sides, not the people.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 05:01 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: I hate her more. That's the bottom line for me anyway.


That's the bottom line for many, many people. I can't say I wouldn't do the same given those circumstances. I don't blame the people, per se, I think the leaders have brought this upon themselves, it's akin to Donald being their Frankenstein, they created him in a sense, at least that's how I see it.

I take issue with the GOP condemning this man and publicly saying they don't agree with what he stands for yet they support him. That bothers me. I don't like claiming those people but they are my leaders too.



RE: Presidential race 2016 - Midwest Spy - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 05:22 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(06-07-2016, 05:01 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: I hate her more. That's the bottom line for me anyway.


That's the bottom line for many, many people. I can't say I wouldn't do the same given those circumstances. I don't blame the people, per se, I think the leaders have brought this upon themselves, it's akin to Donald being their Frankenstein, they created him in a sense, at least that's how I see it.

I take issue with the GOP condemning this man and publicly saying they don't agree with what he stands for yet they support him. That bothers me. I don't like claiming those people but they are my leaders too.

It's pretty easy to understand.

GOP leaders are saying the same thing as FQ2 and my dad.

Trump is the lesser of two evils.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 05:25 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Trump is the lesser of two evils.


I don't even know what to say to that. It boggles my mind.

What I don't understand is putting your hate above your love of country.



RE: Presidential race 2016 - blueberryhill - 06-07-2016

(06-07-2016, 05:33 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(06-07-2016, 05:25 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Trump is the lesser of two evils.


I don't even know what to say to that. It boggles my mind.

What I don't understand is putting your hate above your love of country.

Blowing-kisses and a high five to you, sista!


RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-07-2016

All three candidates are giving speeches tonight starting with Donald at 9:00 followed by Hillary and then Bernie. The techs are getting Donald's teleprompter ready now. Hahaha! My sides, my sides.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - BigMark - 06-07-2016

I preferred Jeb Bush and Kasich, I think they are good honest men and really care about our country.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 06-08-2016

With about 25% of our votes in, Bernie Sanders isn't doing anywhere near as well as his campaign or anybody else projected. :(

So far, Clinton is kicking Bernie's ass here in California.

I don't think he'll stick with his plan to put up a contest for Super Delegates at the convention in July if he doesn't close that gap considerably tonight, which is unlikely.

I overheard a brief bit of Trump's teleprompter speech tonight; he appealed directly to Bernie's millions of supporters (who he characterized as victims of a "rigged system") to jump on the Trump train.

Bernie's going to meet with President Obama on Thursday. I'm anxious to see if Bernie endorses Hillary by early next week.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 06-08-2016

(06-07-2016, 09:52 PM)BigMark Wrote: I preferred Jeb Bush and Kasich, I think they are good honest men and really care about our country.

Me too.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - Blindgreed1 - 06-08-2016

(06-07-2016, 05:33 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(06-07-2016, 05:25 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Trump is the lesser of two evils.


I don't even know what to say to that. It boggles my mind.

What I don't understand is putting your hate above your love of country.
I don't think it's putting hate above country so much as it is knowing Hilary is a crooked assed liar. So in effect, it comes down to deciding if you'd prefer a blowhard over a lying cheating thief.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 06-08-2016

Donald Trump lies more often than Hillary Clinton and he's a shady mofo too. He does know how to target-market though and while many of his supporters seem to know he's blatantly lying by way of his frequent flip-flopping, they just don't care. He says he relates to their frustration, anger and fear -- and they like him.

Clinton's an 'established' liar in the political arena and has been on the inside for much longer -- she's amassed a lot of fans, and also amassed a lot of detractors who would NEVER consider voting for her, no matter how bad the alternative. It's not difficult for me to understand her detractors' feelings. But, to me, there's no question that Hillary Clinton would be better at leading the country I love forward than Donald Trump.

22 options to choose from a year ago and somehow we the people have narrowed the field down to the two least trusted candidates in the pack; the two least trusted candidates in history. I don't think we can blame the 'establishment' in either party entirely for that; they wouldn't be the last two standing were it not for our votes (and we had a hell of a lot of options).

That's how I see it anyway.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-08-2016



So...some of you are the employer and you'd rather hire the least competent person to do the job for you rather than the one who is the most capable.

...and there are those who wonder why I don't understand. hah



RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 06-08-2016



I've been reading the news and a few sites are reporting that today Bernie is letting go of half the campaign staff he has left. Gee, I wonder what that signals.



RE: Presidential race 2016 - F.U. - 06-08-2016

(06-08-2016, 04:49 AM)Duchess Wrote:

So...some of you are the employer and you'd rather hire the least competent person to do the job for you rather than the one who is the most capable.

...and there are those who wonder why I don't understand. hah

Sometimes its better to look at the person that knows nothing about the job. Some of my best employees were green and I trained them to do the job.

I would rather see the flip-floping loud mouth get this job, over the lying ass scandal queen who knows how to manipulate the system.


RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 06-08-2016

(06-08-2016, 05:50 AM)Duchess Wrote:

I've been reading the news and a few sites are reporting that today Bernie is letting go of half the campaign staff he has left. Gee, I wonder what that signals.

Rub it in, why don't ya!

I'm just kidding. I think Bernie's an effin' winner and has managed to influence the future of the country, even though he'll lose his bid for the nomination and quite likely endorse Hillary Clinton. It's Clinton's time and I believe she's gonna clean Trump's clock in the general.

I think the President of the United States is the last job on the planet for which people using ration (rather than emotion) would elect to hire the candidate who is the least experienced, least qualified, and least open to advice/mentoring for 'on the job training'.