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RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - BlueTiki - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 03:11 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Shut the fuck up fatboy . . .
It's no wonder food (baked potato) was the first thing that came to his mind!
I'll bet he drooled, too.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - ramseycat - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 03:11 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:(07-01-2013, 09:01 PM)Clang McFly Wrote: And they double as body bags. How convenient.
"Fire is coming! Quick, wrap yourself up like a baked potato, that'll protect you...but most likely kill you."
Shut the fuck up fatboy and get a job they've got the kind of guts you can only dream of you fat cross dressing carbunkle on society.
When they are busy risking their lives and saving the lives of others you will be busy upstairs dressing up as Britney Spears with your thumb up your ass.
This topic is as far from funny as it can get but carbunkle made me snicker.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - username - 07-02-2013
Would a person suffocate under those circumstances?
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - Duchess - 07-02-2013
This is one of the families. I saw her interviewed this morning. It was very moving. She wanted us to know her husband and she was able to hang in there and share a little. She has four kids under the age of eight. It was heartbreaking listening to her. I don't think there is anything in life to prepare someone for this kind of horror.
![[Image: AndrewAshcraft.jpg]](http://media.heavy.com/media/2013/07/AndrewAshcraft.jpg)
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - Jimbone - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 03:27 PM)username Wrote: Would a person suffocate under those circumstances?
A guy Clang's size trying to squeeze into Britney Spears costumes?
Yeah, probably.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - ramseycat - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 03:35 PM)Duchess Wrote:
This is one of the families. I saw her interviewed this morning. It was very moving. She wanted us to know her husband and she was able to hang in there and share a little. She has four kids under the age of eight. It was heartbreaking listening to her. I don't think there is anything in life to prepare someone for this kind of horror.
This is just heartbreaking. Imagine the devastation of losing her husband but the fear of raising their kids alone. Having to look into their little faces and know they lost their father. She can at least tell them he died a real hero. Although at this point I don't think that gives her much comfort.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - Duchess - 07-02-2013
They had been texting back & forth. He had sent her a picture to show their location in regards to where the fire was and said they were probably going to have to sleep there. That fire must have zoomed like a tornado across the distance, that text turned out to be the last one, she couldn't reach him after that. I saw how far away the fire was, it was in the photograph and miles separated him from it.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - ramseycat - 07-02-2013
Duchess you mentioned the fear the fire fighters must have felt. What about the fear this wife felt when she wasn't able to reach her husband anymore.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - Duchess - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 04:03 PM)ramseycat Wrote: What about the fear this wife felt when she wasn't able to reach her husband anymore.
I don't think she knew (at that time), Ramsey. She had just seen the picture & saw how far away the fire was. No one could have possibly known this was going to happen. They were a 20 man unit, one survived and that was the guy who moved the truck they had come in on.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - Clang McFly - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 03:11 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:(07-01-2013, 09:01 PM)Clang McFly Wrote: And they double as body bags. How convenient.
"Fire is coming! Quick, wrap yourself up like a baked potato, that'll protect you...but most likely kill you."
Shut the fuck up fatboy and get a job they've got the kind of guts you can only dream of you fat cross dressing carbunkle on society.
When they are busy risking their lives and saving the lives of others you will be busy upstairs dressing up as Britney Spears with your thumb up your ass.
When I dream of eating guts they're usually not extra crispy.
Risking their lives? More like throwing their lives away. Herpaderp look at the shiny out of control fire, maybe I should get the fuck out of here herpaderp. Nah, herpaderp I'll just herpaderp stop drop and roll myself hepaderp in this potato sack and hope that works.
RE: 18 Firefighters Dead - Clang McFly - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 03:36 PM)Jimbone Wrote:(07-02-2013, 03:27 PM)username Wrote: Would a person suffocate under those circumstances?
A guy Clang's size trying to squeeze into Britney Spears costumes?
Yeah, probably.
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - Duchess - 07-03-2013
It's been lovely knowing you, Clang.
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - Duchess - 07-03-2013
Hero's all -
Andrew Ashcraft - 29
Robert Caldwell - 23
Travis Carter - 31
Dustin Deford - 24
Christopher MacKenzie - 30
Eric Marsh - 43
Grant McKee - 21
Sean Misner - 26
Scott Norris - 28
Wade Parker - 22
John Percin - 24
Anthony Rose - 23
Jesse Steed - 36
Joe Thurston - 32
Travis Turbyfill - 27
William Warneke - 25
Clayton Whitted - 28
Kevin Woyjeck - 21
Garret Zuppiger - 27
Eighteen of the 19 firefighters who lost their lives were part of the Granite Mountain Hotshots, an elite firefighting team from Prescott, Arizona.
To join, candidates must complete a boot camp-style test to prove they are in peak physical condition. They have to run 1.5 miles in 10 minutes and 35 seconds, complete 40 sit-ups in 60 seconds, 25 push-ups in 60 seconds, and seven pull-ups.
Members trained by running, hiking, yoga, doing core exercises and weight training.
'Problem solving, teamwork, ability to make decisions in a stressful environment and being nice are the attributes of our crewmembers,' its website read.
After a fire breaks out, they hike for miles into the wilderness with chain saws and backpacks filled with heavy gear to build lines of protection between people and the blaze. They remove brush, trees and anything that might burn in the direction of homes and cities.
This is the photograph I referred to yesterday, the one that the hotshot had sent his wife -
![[Image: article-0-1AA0B6D8000005DC-319_634x475.jpg]](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/03/article-0-1AA0B6D8000005DC-319_634x475.jpg)
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - Cynical Ninja - 07-03-2013
(07-02-2013, 10:20 PM)Clang McFly Wrote: When I dream of eating guts they're usually not extra crispy.
Risking their lives? More like throwing their lives away. Herpaderp look at the shiny out of control fire, maybe I should get the fuck out of here herpaderp. Nah, herpaderp I'll just herpaderp stop drop and roll myself hepaderp in this potato sack and hope that works.
Shut the fuck up and get a job you fat worthless oxygen thief.
I've had piles that were more worthy of existence than you.
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - Jimbone - 07-03-2013
Ah, I see Clunk had taken his troll vitamin last night - he's had a little extra vigor in his troll-bait postings!
He upped his game from being a tranny to mocking dead firefighters!
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - Donovan - 07-03-2013
If it's any consolation, from what I know living in heavy forested and fire prone areas and knowing a few of these guys...when shit goes south during a fire it happens quick. The "baked potato suits" work for that reason-when a windblown fire changes direction it moves so quick it's A) too fast to run away from and B) already racing past you and gone like a flash once it burns up the instant fuel on the ground. These guys died because the fire slowed over the top of them from what I heard, wasn't anything they could have done. Meanwhile, fire raises the temperature several hundred degrees and fills it with acrid smoke. One or two breaths instantly sears the lungs and kills you. They likely didn't have much time to react before they were dead, let alone reflect on how bad it was gonna hurt etc. Small consolation I know...
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - username - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 11:01 AM)Donovan Wrote: These guys died because the fire slowed over the top of them from what I heard, wasn't anything they could have done. Meanwhile, fire raises the temperature several hundred degrees and fills it with acrid smoke. One or two breaths instantly sears the lungs and kills you. They likely didn't have much time to react before they were dead, let alone reflect on how bad it was gonna hurt etc. Small consolation I know...
Thanks. That's why I wanted to know if they would have suffocated or something.
I read that hotshot #20 was serving as their lookout. He says he called and told them that the fire had changed direction and that he was moving out because of the imminent danger. He asked them if they needed anything and left.
The paper said he followed protocol and the team was supposed to have established a safe zone and means of exit neither of which were foolproof (obviously). Sad.
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - Donovan - 07-03-2013
How much survivor guilt must that dude be going through...
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - Duchess - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 11:01 AM)Donovan Wrote: Meanwhile, fire raises the temperature several hundred degrees and fills it with acrid smoke. One or two breaths instantly sears the lungs and kills you. They likely didn't have much time to react before they were dead, let alone reflect on how bad it was gonna hurt etc. Small consolation I know...
I appreciate reading that. I wanted to know that it happened that fast. I know that some were found in their shelter & others weren't and I wondered about that too.
RE: 19 Firefighters Dead - username - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 01:21 PM)Donovan Wrote: How much survivor guilt must that dude be going through...
Seriously. I'd be questioning my every move. Did I communicate the threat forcefully enough and on and on. I'd feel horrible. I hope he gets through this.