(03-05-2015, 08:33 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: The mother lost that fight a long time ago, the kid grew up to the old age of 13 and was a douch. Mom and dad should have busted her ass a long time ago and made a decent human out of her.

(03-05-2015, 09:17 PM)sally Wrote: June and Ward. Those scumbags.

(03-05-2015, 08:34 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(03-05-2015, 06:47 PM)Donovan Wrote: I know that at some point before this event, that kid got the idea from a prior experience that a middle of the road tantrum was an effective way to deal with mom. And that's mom's fault. Unless the kid was a total psychotic she was being treated way too leniently and was at least one assbeating short of her lifetime supply. Probably if she had kicked the kid's ass a couple times the kid might still be alive and she wouldn't be burying her. If my kid tried that even one goddamn time I'd have whooped his little ass all the way home for it, because some things you just do not fuck around with, and playing in the road is one of them.

Now that's if the kid wasn't a psychotic bi-polar little shit. But in THAT case, the kid had no business being shepherded around to 4-H meetings. You lock them little fuckers down until they learn and practice respect. It isn't rocket science, and you aren't their goddamn buddy you're their parent. Too many forget that these days. And now that kid is dead because momma dropped the ball and the kid was an idiot.

Well, that's an about-face, Donovan. Wasn't it you who said that clearly punishing kids for bad behavior was ineffective and that jedi mind tricks as a form of behavior modification was the way to go?

I'm not assuming the girl was psychotic or bipolar, nor that her mom was somehow unfit or too lenient. That might be the case, but that's not what teachers, friends and family are saying about her/them. In any event, Trinity obviously should not have been planted in the middle of road and her mom is devastated.

As for how the girl and her mom could not have seen the car coming, we don't know yet if the driver came around a corner suddenly, or was simply going too fast for the mom and child to get out of the road in time, or if the driver had her lights on... People get run over by cars, sometimes they see them coming and sometimes they don't. Witnesses are being interviewed and the investigation is expected to be completed in two months, according to police.

(03-05-2015, 08:41 PM)sally Wrote:

(03-05-2015, 08:33 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: The mother lost that fight a long time ago, the kid grew up to the old age of 13 and was a douch. Mom and dad should have busted her ass a long time ago and made a decent human out of her.

So you and Donovan know these people?

She was a 13 year old girl that did something really stupid. They do that sometimes. I know that's hard for you and Donovan to understand being the perfect parent's that you are. Jesus Christ .

(03-05-2015, 06:47 PM)Donovan Wrote: Sally is arguing silly shit like who gets front seats and whatnot and trying to defend an idiot who now has one dead kid, and there is no excuse for that. That mother failed in her one fucking job, to keep the kid alive until the kid knew enough to do the job on her own. She failed to teach the kid not to sit in the fucking highway, she failed to teach the kid that tantrums are unacceptable at age 13, she failed to keep her daughter safe from the drunken fools of the world.

(03-05-2015, 10:42 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Yeah, I understand the benefits of exercising immediate discipline, doling out PUNISHMENT, nipping things in the bud, correctly using possessive apostrophes, avoiding positioning oneself as a kid's buddy

(03-05-2015, 11:34 PM)sally Wrote: The better question is why don't you have Liberty Mutual.

He has a teenage son.

I don't have kids but it doesn't stop me from voicing my opinion.

(03-05-2015, 09:05 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: O.K.this comment may not win many friends, but here goes....
I do not understand why some of you are so quick to judge others, and to top it off, before you even know the facts in the case. We all know how the news media can screw up the facts.
You can be ideal parents and still have a difficult child to deal with. Sometimes it is lack of parenting, but sometimes it is just the luck of the draw...This child would not be the first young lady that has thrown a temper tantrum in a power struggle with mom.....Your scathing remarks about the mom might really be undeserved. Some of you make it sound like you will, or did raise a perfect child and if so, congratulations. You can pass on your morals, views, genetics, etc. and pray that your kid turns out o.k. It is difficult to parent ²⁴⁄₇ especially when child reaches age when he/she pushes parents away. Someone suggested locking her in the house. One call to Child Protection and you just might have to go to Court..
Some parents deserve to have their kids taken from them, but sadly that isn't usually done in a timely manner and they may be subjected to more abuse in a foster family....Most of us do the best we can raising our kids, but it bothers me when people attack the parents every time their child does something "bad."
Hold your judgments until you know the facts.....This was the "perfect storm" in that the driver who hit mom and daughter apparently had been drinking. Put that together with a rebellious child in the midst of a temper tantrum and crash, one person dead. Very sad...