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RE: School Stabbings - Blindgreed1 - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 12:08 PM)sally Wrote: Despite the statistics you posted, if I had to choose I'd rather have someone coming at me with a knife than a gun. I'd have a better chance at dodging a knife than bullets and that's the only point MS was trying to make. But I guess you'd choose the gun because statistically they are used as murder weapons more often.If it's so easy to dodge a knife, why do so many people die from it?
RE: School Stabbings - F.U. - 11-05-2015
I think a blade could be just as dangerous in a school setting. Once you are cornered it don't matter what the instrument is, your pretty much fucked. Then there is no loud bang from a knife, warning the rest of the school as to what is going on. Yes there will be screaming but that can mean many things in a class. A gunshot rings out and everyone knows what is going down.
But that's just me thinking out loud again.
RE: School Stabbings - HairOfTheDog - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 12:08 PM)sally Wrote: Despite the statistics you posted, if I had to choose I'd rather have someone coming at me with a knife than a gun. I'd have a better chance at dodging a knife than bullets and that's the only point MS was trying to make. But I guess you'd choose the gun because statistically they are used as murder weapons more often.
Yeah, but you're not like some of these guys up in here who'd take a knife to a gun fight; them being faster than a speeding bullet and all.
I'm just plain human too. I see someone coming at me with a knife, I can turn and run if I have time. If I don't, I have a chance of doing some physical damage to them when they get close enough to stab me. I don't have that same opportunity when I've already been shot on approach.
RE: School Stabbings - Maggot - 11-05-2015
I'm kinda surprised some kid hasn't gone into a school with a backpack bomb made from fireworks and nails yet.
RE: School Stabbings - F.U. - 11-05-2015
Its ok Lois Lane, we will protect you.
RE: School Stabbings - Duchess - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 12:55 PM)F.U. Wrote: Its ok Lois Lane, we will protect you.
That's condescending.
RE: School Stabbings - F.U. - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 12:54 PM)Maggot Wrote: I'm kinda surprised some kid hasn't gone into a school with a backpack bomb made from fireworks and nails yet.
Me too. When I was in school I was a destructive little PITA. Even in those days I was smart enough to make concussion bombs out of shotgun shells with steel marbles taped to the bottom. One of those tossed out the third story window would rattle the windows and get us all a little time out of class.
RE: School Stabbings - F.U. - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 12:58 PM)Duchess Wrote:(11-05-2015, 12:55 PM)F.U. Wrote: Its ok Lois Lane, we will protect you.
That's condescending.
I know. Aint I such a little stinker?
ETA. That started out as a joke, but as I sat here thinking about it I think HotD would make a great Lois Lane. HotD has such a great sense of fashion when it comes to hats that I think she would be the cats ass playing that role in a remake.
RE: School Stabbings - Blindgreed1 - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 12:49 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:And yet the statistics don't back that up. I guess all of those stabbing victims just weren't as smart and agile as the ladies and MS of mock. Bravo ladies and MS, bravo.(11-05-2015, 12:08 PM)sally Wrote: Despite the statistics you posted, if I had to choose I'd rather have someone coming at me with a knife than a gun. I'd have a better chance at dodging a knife than bullets and that's the only point MS was trying to make. But I guess you'd choose the gun because statistically they are used as murder weapons more often.
Yeah, but you're not like some of these guys up in here who'd take a knife to a gun fight; them being faster than a speeding bullet and all.
I'm just plain human too. I see someone coming at me with a knife, I can turn and run if I have time. If I don't, I have a chance of doing some physical damage to them when they get close enough to stab me. I don't have that same opportunity when I've already been shot on approach.
RE: School Stabbings - sally - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 12:30 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:(11-05-2015, 12:08 PM)sally Wrote: Despite the statistics you posted, if I had to choose I'd rather have someone coming at me with a knife than a gun. I'd have a better chance at dodging a knife than bullets and that's the only point MS was trying to make. But I guess you'd choose the gun because statistically they are used as murder weapons more often.If it's so easy to dodge a knife, why do so many people die from it?
Jesus Christ. I didn't say it was so easy. If Norman Bates came after me in the shower with a butcher knife I probably wouldn't survive. I'm not denying that. But if I was in a public setting and a lunatic walked in with the intent to kill as many people as possible my chances of survival would be better with a single knife than multiple bullets flying everywhere from a firearm.
Why you want to keep arguing that with statistics about knives used as murder weapons is fucking beyond me.
RE: School Stabbings - HairOfTheDog - 11-05-2015
Well, what a lovely and gentleman-like compliment, F.U.
Even during discussions about violent crime, we broads are really more interested in fashion and dressing up after all.
P.s. Hey...........F.U., post another pic for Gunnar so he can rate your attractiveness with the present state of your beard. Oh, and it would be super rad and hawt if you wore your smock and pencil protector in the snap!
RE: School Stabbings - Blindgreed1 - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 01:15 PM)sally Wrote:Maybe this is a common misconception and that is why more people are murdered with knives? Or maybe it's because people who murder with knives don't realize how deadly a knife is? Or maybe those who murder with guns aren't very good shots? All points to consider for sure, but it brings us right back to the main issue doesn't it? If more people are murdered with knives that are murdered with assault rifles, why are so many people bound and determined to make the AR-15 illegal when a more deadly implement of destruction goes under the radar. Are we truly concerned for public safety and making an attempt to do something about it or are gun laws another form of "Security Theater?" Looking at the statistics for California and Illinois (toughest gun laws in the country) i'd say it's akin to taking your shoes off in the airport. In 2013, there were 5,782 murders by handgun in the U.S. According to FBI data, 20 percent of those — 1,157 of the 5,782 handgun murders — happened in Illinois and California, which have two of the toughest state gun control regimes in the entire country. And even though California and Illinois contain about 16 percent of the nation’s population, those two states are responsible for over 20 percent of the nation’s handgun murders.(11-05-2015, 12:30 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:(11-05-2015, 12:08 PM)sally Wrote: Despite the statistics you posted, if I had to choose I'd rather have someone coming at me with a knife than a gun. I'd have a better chance at dodging a knife than bullets and that's the only point MS was trying to make. But I guess you'd choose the gun because statistically they are used as murder weapons more often.If it's so easy to dodge a knife, why do so many people die from it?
Jesus Christ. I didn't say it was so easy. If Norman Bates came after me in the shower with a butcher knife I probably wouldn't survive. I'm not denying that. But if I was in a public setting and a lunatic walked in with the intent to kill as many people as possible my chances of survival would be better with a single knife than multiple bullets flying everywhere from a firearm.
RE: School Stabbings - F.U. - 11-05-2015
It was a side thought there California queen. I didn't say it was more important, you did.
Since you so kindly asked for my pic again. The least I can do is accommodate you there little lady. You might say it was intended for gunnar, but I know what the truth is.
Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a no guns sign, able to leap grade school desks in a single bound. Its a bird, its a plain, its SUPERGUNMAN.
Fear not, stand behind me. I shall protect you.
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Hey, this is a lot of fun, but I do have to get some work done. So everyone play nice now. Peace
RE: School Stabbings - HairOfTheDog - 11-05-2015
UC Merced Stabbing Update
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The UC Merced student who wounded four people in a stabbing spree at the campus has been identified as Faisal Mohammad, a freshman student from Santa Clara.
Merced Couty Sheriff Vern Warnke confirmed the identity of the 18-year-old Computer Science and Engineering major early Thursday.
Mohammad was shot and killed by UC Merced police just after 8 a.m. on Wednesday morning as he ran from the two-story classroom building where investigators said his violent spree began.
Warnke said investigators, including the FBI, were still trying to determine the motive for Mohammad’s attack, which wounded two students, a female student advisor and a construction worker who was on campus for a remodeling project. The four suffered non-life-threatening injuries.
Read more here: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/education/uc-merced/article43126323.html#storylink=cpy
RE: School Stabbings - sally - 11-05-2015
Maybe this is a common misconception and that is why more people are murdered with knives? Or maybe it's because people who murder with knives don't realize how deadly a knife is? Or maybe those who murder with guns aren't very good shots? All points to consider for sure, but it brings us right back to the main issue doesn't it? If more people are murdered with knives that are murdered with assault rifles, why are so many people bound and determined to make the AR-15 illegal when a more deadly implement of destruction goes under the radar. Are we truly concerned for public safety and making an attempt to do something about it or are gun laws another form of "Security Theater?" Looking at the statistics for California and Illinois (toughest gun laws in the country) i'd say it's akin to taking your shoes off in the airport. In 2013, there were 5,782 murders by handgun in the U.S. According to FBI data, 20 percent of those — 1,157 of the 5,782 handgun murders — happened in Illinois and California, which have two of the toughest state gun control regimes in the entire country. And even though California and Illinois contain about 16 percent of the nation’s population, those two states are responsible for over 20 percent of the nation’s handgun murders.
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I'm not bound and determined to ban any guns because I believe it would keep people from murdering each other, that wasn't my argument. My only argument was that I would have a better chance of survival with a mass murderer with a single knife than a mass murderer with a gun. And that argument remains the same.
I actually knew two people who were stabbed to death. The one guy got into a fight and was stabbed right in the heart and died instantly. The other guy was in a bar fight, stabbed multiple times and died on the way to the hospital. I think statistically I have higher chances of being killed by a knife in a one on one fight than killed in a movie theater mass shooting for example. But that wasn't my argument.
RE: School Stabbings - sally - 11-05-2015
Well I fucked that quote up.
RE: School Stabbings - SIXFOOTERsez - 11-05-2015
Another Norwegian run amok?
The investigation to motive continues
RE: School Stabbings - Blindgreed1 - 11-05-2015
I prefer to make decisions based on facts because sometimes what seems logical isn't reality. If you are at a distance of 21 feet or more you might have a better chance at surviving a knife attack, of course, i'd wager that if you were 21 feet or more away from a gunman your chances of survival would likely be about the same in your crowded movie theater scenario.
RE: School Stabbings - Maggot - 11-05-2015
How come they didn't just let the guy run away? Why did they shoot him?
RE: School Stabbings - HairOfTheDog - 11-05-2015
(11-05-2015, 02:42 PM)Maggot Wrote: How come they didn't just let the guy run away? Why did they shoot him?
Because it would be moronic for police to allow a suspect who is an immediate and present danger to public safety -- someone in the process of attempting to injure or kill people -- to run away.
Clearly, the spree stabber was a "violent" criminal and threat to public safety, Maggot.
The full details of the story, including the shooting of the suspect, haven't been released yet. I'll post an update when it's available.