(04-10-2015, 01:21 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I understand people protesting unwarranted violence by police against community members (whether those community members be children or adults, of any color). It true, I support people pushing for change and a better system (improved candidate screening, training, monitoring, accountability...) to reduce unwarranted police brutality as much as possible.

I also understand people choosing to work with cancer patients, people organizing and participating in cancer research fund-raisers, people volunteering at children's hospitals and the Make A Dream Foundation. It's true, I support people pushing for change and a better system (earlier detection, better understanding of the causes, better and more effective treatment options...) to reduce the number of cancer deaths as much as possible.

The absurdity of your comparisons and your tunnel vision when your interest obviously lies more with being seen as "right" than with the subject matter at hand is definitely funny to me, Gunnar. What's not funny is the subject matter itself.

So, whether one considers your limitations funny or sad, you've made it clear that you are unable to understand how the same person can support different strategies for reducing deaths at the hands of cops, reducing death as a result of cancer, (and for that matter -- reducing death as a result of domestic violence, reducing deaths as a result of hunger, reducing deaths as a result of gun negligence, etc...). No matter your limitations, it's true Gunnar -- not everybody is as one-dimensional as you've positioned yourself to be.

(04-10-2015, 12:44 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: This argument, as well as HoTD's is based on supposition and speculation that this was a race crime. There have been no facts presented in this case that prove one way or another that this wasn't simply an idiot with a badge who murdered an innocent man and tried to cover his ass. If those facts are presented and proven, then by all means protest. Until that happens (or doesn't) it's mob rules mentality no matter how you slice it. Right now its just a bad thing that happened to an innocent man. Take the color out of it guys so you can see more clearly.

(04-10-2015, 01:32 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: I'm just not one who will jump to conclusions as easily as you do.

(04-10-2015, 01:39 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(04-10-2015, 12:44 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: This argument, as well as HoTD's is based on supposition and speculation that this was a race crime. There have been no facts presented in this case that prove one way or another that this wasn't simply an idiot with a badge who murdered an innocent man and tried to cover his ass. If those facts are presented and proven, then by all means protest. Until that happens (or doesn't) it's mob rules mentality no matter how you slice it. Right now its just a bad thing that happened to an innocent man. Take the color out of it guys so you can see more clearly.

Jesus, you're very very slow on the uptake here, Gunnar.

I haven't supposed anywhere that this is a race crime. In fact, I've stated that it may not be at all, in my very first post in this thread.

Whether there is a racial component to this presently inexplicable murder is a question that will be asked and investigated. It may turn out that Slager is one of those cops who thinks black people are dispensable. It may turn out that he has no such thoughts in regards to blacks and instead is a power/control freak who loses his shit whenever anybody disobeyed his orders and who lost it all the way with Walter Scott. Or, maybe Slager's training (or lack thereof) lead him to believe that he should fire at people who ran when pulled over by police. Those are all questions that bear asking, along with many others. IMO.

The only one who can't see clearly, to the point of being actively or incidentally deceptive, is you Gunnar.

(04-10-2015, 01:39 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Or, maybe Slager's training (or lack thereof) lead him to believe that he should fire at people who ran when pulled over by police.

(04-10-2015, 01:58 PM)sally Wrote:

(04-10-2015, 01:39 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Or, maybe Slager's training (or lack thereof) lead him to believe that he should fire at people who ran when pulled over by police.

From watching the videos that would be my guess. He panicked and didn't have control over himself. I think it was just simply a trigger happy lack of composure.

If it was a white guy running, would he have done the same thing? Who knows unless he admits it.

(04-10-2015, 02:26 PM)Jimbone Wrote: We interrupt this thread to bring you a man being beaten by police following a horse chase. Yes. A horse chase. Action turns up around 50 seconds.

The cover of Time -

(04-10-2015, 02:26 PM)Jimbone Wrote: We interrupt this thread to bring you a man being beaten by police following a horse chase.

(04-10-2015, 07:26 PM)Duchess Wrote:
It's being reported that 10 deputies have been put on leave due to the video of them beating a suspect.

(04-10-2015, 07:33 PM)username Wrote: I think that Time cover is designed to sell magazines and totally NOT helpful to the discussion.

Unless/until they prove the cop was a racist, that's just unnecessarily provocative and totally exploits the shooting.

(04-10-2015, 07:26 PM)Duchess Wrote: It's being reported that 10 deputies have been put on leave due to the video of them beating a suspect.

(04-10-2015, 10:33 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I think that all of those fuckers deserve to be fired, at minimum, based on their actions in the video alone.

(04-11-2015, 06:55 AM)Duchess Wrote: You know how we ended up having to have one thread dedicated to public shootings because there are so many of them? Should we have one for police brutality?

(04-11-2015, 11:19 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: there are three different cases already being covered in here.

Guilty.

I know you weren't singling me out, I'm just acknowledging my guilt. It's very difficult for me to stay on track when other things come to mind.