(02-27-2011, 11:44 PM)notsure Wrote: I'm going to go off topic and ask a question regarding the homicide of Straub and Clark : ) How big was the party saturday night prior to the murders. If memory serves tiff said on this site that it was only her, z, johnny, and lisa at the straub house that saturday night. later someone mentioned that the neighbors to straubs were talking about that there was a "party" there saturday night. How big a party? I can't imagine 4 people total would raise the neighbors "party" radar. was there a ton of people there? Someone that knows please chime in. Also I can't remember who said they were told who did it, it had to do with JC, and that someone previously on the forum had recently guessed what happened. (recently to his post). Someone with more motivation than me go back to that post and work backward, taking all the JC involved theorys. one of them will be the answer. that means no cuban mafia, or lisa boyfriend. My guess it means, either 1. johnny snitched, 2. johnny owed money, or maybe even 3. johnny talked about a safe or a new load of product, the crew went to rob him (note grabbing the safe may have not been seen as robbing johnny, but instead robbing lisa's parents who they thought could afford it, b/c everyone in the burbs has their stash of $100k in cash, right?), johnny fucked some up and the nastiest of the bunch counter attacked. I;m personally not buying #3 robbery gone bad, but it still is an available theory that doesn't involve aliens, santa, easter bunny, or whatever. Am I missing a theory?

(02-27-2011, 11:45 PM)pspence Wrote: I'm curious...do you really believe 150% that there is no possible way Tiffany was involved in the crime in any way? As in you have NO DOUBTS?

I am a very inteligent person thank you very much...

I became educated, quite drugs, grew up and have been married for over 36 years to a good man. My kids are an accountant, a therapist and a teacher. So yes, she could be guilty but until I hear it from the LE, I'm going to believe in her and keep communication lines open.

(02-27-2011, 11:41 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hey everyone! I've been pretty quiet on this forum. Just reading everyone else's posts. I'm going nuts because I could answer some of the questions some have asked. I don't want to saboutage the investigation and out of respect for the family I have kept my mouth shut. Someone mentioned that Lisa's facebook has been removed. The Straubs moved back home so they probably discontinued it. I can't even imagine going back there. Regarding the house being ransacked a family member went with the crime scene clean-up people and stated that the whole house was ransacked. Things were broken and thrown about. The perps even took the heater/air conditioning vents off? (I do know someone who didn't believe in banks so that is where he hid his money). And like I've said before Maytee was strange and DANGEROUS before any of this happened! Sorry that's all I can say for now. And yes I'm still very new so you can take it with a grain of salt if you must!

(02-27-2011, 11:45 PM)seasontickets Wrote: So no news yet about this case. I was hoping we would hear something, atleast a press conference by LE saying they are working hard on the case etc, etc. Does it really take this long for DNA evidence to come back?

(02-27-2011, 11:31 PM)pspence Wrote: Sounds like you two have a decent relationship. Have you thought about giving her some coaching regarding how to raise children? Or about fetal alcohol syndrome?

For all I know she loves her children just as much as you or I and until I am faced with facts that are different, I will stay with my nonjudgemental attitudes. Regarding "fetal alcohol syndrome"...her other children look just fine and I don't go out of my way in judging people unless I have concrete proof.

I was a Social Worker for many years and if there is one thing I know is that you need to meet people "where they are"...she has been very respectful to me in all of our correspondence and until that changes I will show her the same respect.

(02-28-2011, 12:03 AM)pspence Wrote: That is very interesting about the vent covers off... looking for $$$ or drugs .....how scared those kids must have been...can't get it out of my mind what they went through...guess could have been a robbery and Johnny (built like a brick sh--house) went down fighting trying to protect his girl...bags over their heads so they wouldn't have to look at them...

(02-28-2011, 12:12 AM)curious Wrote: Thank you, kitty.

God, I feel so sorry for those people having to live in that house. My guess is that they don't have the kind of money that would allow them to let it sit empty and live elsewhere.

(02-27-2011, 11:44 PM)notsure Wrote: I'm going to go off topic and ask a question regarding the homicide of Straub and Clark : ) How big was the party saturday night prior to the murders. If memory serves tiff said on this site that it was only her, z, johnny, and lisa at the straub house that saturday night. later someone mentioned that the neighbors to straubs were talking about that there was a "party" there saturday night. How big a party? I can't imagine 4 people total would raise the neighbors "party" radar. was there a ton of people there? Someone that knows please chime in. Also I can't remember who said they were told who did it, it had to do with JC, and that someone previously on the forum had recently guessed what happened. (recently to his post). Someone with more motivation than me go back to that post and work backward, taking all the JC involved theorys. one of them will be the answer. that means no cuban mafia, or lisa boyfriend. My guess it means, either 1. johnny snitched, 2. johnny owed money, or maybe even 3. johnny talked about a safe or a new load of product, the crew went to rob him (note grabbing the safe may have not been seen as robbing johnny, but instead robbing lisa's parents who they thought could afford it, b/c everyone in the burbs has their stash of $100k in cash, right?), johnny fucked some up and the nastiest of the bunch counter attacked. I;m personally not buying #3 robbery gone bad, but it still is an available theory that doesn't involve aliens, santa, easter bunny, or whatever. Am I missing a theory?

(02-28-2011, 12:09 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-27-2011, 11:31 PM)pspence Wrote: Sounds like you two have a decent relationship. Have you thought about giving her some coaching regarding how to raise children? Or about fetal alcohol syndrome?

For all I know she loves her children just as much as you or I and until I am faced with facts that are different, I will stay with my nonjudgemental attitudes. Regarding "fetal alcohol syndrome"...her other children look just fine and I don't go out of my way in judging people unless I have concrete proof.

I was a Social Worker for many years and if there is one thing I know is that you need to meet people "where they are"...she has been very respectful to me in all of our correspondence and until that changes I will show her the same respect.

I live close to the Straubs. I work in the South end. Everyday I drive to work and see the children, Tiff and her clan are bringing into this world. You are not meeting her where she is. You are meeting her on the internet. You said the other night "she was just having a little fun, do some percs drink some booze". This woman is pregnant. It's very easy for her to be respectful and god bless on the internet. If you pm me your address, I will gladly pay to move her there. I'm sure she'd love your weather. I am not bashing you, but even if she had nothing to do with the killings, she is still hurting people. You seem very nice. I'll send you Maytee too.

(02-27-2011, 11:40 PM)jenjen Wrote:

(02-27-2011, 11:37 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:

(02-27-2011, 11:34 PM)jenjen Wrote:

(02-27-2011, 11:04 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: [quote='jenjen' pid='137649' dateline='1298861842']
John P Clarke-Middle name is Pete
DOB-7/16/69 (He will be 42)

There is one arrest with the same DOB under the name Jovanny.

AKAs, I guess.

I believe I saw that listed somewhere as the name of one of Johnny's younger brothers.

Yes, Johnny's teenage (15?) brother is J. Please tell me he hasn't been in trouble with the law already?

My guess is that dad used his kids name when he got arrested.

I know someone who did that to their brother. When they got pulled over by police, they showed the brother's drivers license and it worked. Let's just say, the brother wasn't too happy.

Happens all the time.

(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)pspence Wrote: No thanks...appreciate the offer but you don't need to send me Maytee to live here with me...thanks all the same...

(02-28-2011, 12:26 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)pspence Wrote: No thanks...appreciate the offer but you don't need to send me Maytee to live here with me...thanks all the same...

What about Tiffany? I live in Toledo & I'd be more than happy to ship her ass off somewhere. I don't really like having to share my space & air with the likes of her & her kind. What do ya say?

(02-28-2011, 12:32 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:26 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)pspence Wrote: No thanks...appreciate the offer but you don't need to send me Maytee to live here with me...thanks all the same...

What about Tiffany? I live in Toledo & I'd be more than happy to ship her ass off somewhere. I don't really like having to share my space & air with the likes of her & her kind. What do ya say?

We can get two moving trucks and move the whole damn crew.

(02-28-2011, 12:35 AM)cjcisneros Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:32 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:26 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)pspence Wrote: No thanks...appreciate the offer but you don't need to send me Maytee to live here with me...thanks all the same...

What about Tiffany? I live in Toledo & I'd be more than happy to ship her ass off somewhere. I don't really like having to share my space & air with the likes of her & her kind. What do ya say?

We can get two moving trucks and move the whole damn crew.

Hey I bet Tiff knows someone who has some duct tape and bags for packing !

(02-28-2011, 12:32 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:26 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)pspence Wrote: No thanks...appreciate the offer but you don't need to send me Maytee to live here with me...thanks all the same...

What about Tiffany? I live in Toledo & I'd be more than happy to ship her ass off somewhere. I don't really like having to share my space & air with the likes of her & her kind. What do ya say?

We can get two moving trucks and move the whole damn crew.