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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lacypannies74 - 02-28-2011
well said:B
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:38 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:35 AM)cjcisneros Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:32 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:26 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)pspence Wrote: No thanks...appreciate the offer but you don't need to send me Maytee to live here with me...thanks all the same...
What about Tiffany? I live in Toledo & I'd be more than happy to ship her ass off somewhere. I don't really like having to share my space & air with the likes of her & her kind. What do ya say?
We can get two moving trucks and move the whole damn crew.
Hey I bet Tiff knows someone who has some duct tape and bags for packing !
I don't think I've ever laughed (out loud, too!) so hard at a post on here!
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-28-2011
Last has any one watched the movie from my avitar? if not check it out. it is a comic take on a lot of what we have talked about. I think shitty (love the name) would really find it funny.
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Ive watched it and actually have a copy of it...its a great movie!
Absolutely hilarious!
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:12 AM)curious Wrote: Thank you, kitty.
God, I feel so sorry for those people having to live in that house. My guess is that they don't have the kind of money that would allow them to let it sit empty and live elsewhere.
Nice innuendo
What do you mean, "innuendo"? I'm assuming they aren't wealthy and able to afford leaving their house. I can't imagine how horrible that would be. Who wants to live where someone has been murdered - especially your child!!!
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No, no, no...what i should have post is "nice oxymorone"...as to the theory about a safe and the family having money being the motive for the crime (which i disagree)...just disregard, i to can't imagine the pain being inflicted on the Straubs...so disregard comment, stupid one at that!!
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - notsure - 02-28-2011
It was Lisa's Uncle I believe that first brought up this non-existant safe so how could Johnny rant and rave on to all his friends about it - Johnny
loved Lisa he wouldn't ramble on about her home to people - so I rule robbery out - I do rule vengeance in definately - it's all a bit too far out for the average robber to haul in his bags and duct tape. Who had a grudge against Johnny or Lisa?
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Actually it was stated that when people from johnny's circle were questioned by le they asked if the perps got the safe. they all heard that there was a safe prior to the uncle saying anything. Johnny was quoted as stating there was a safe w/ $100k, lisa's dad gave him the combo and johnny would open the safe, count the money, and fan himself with the 100s and 50s. The uncle mentioned the safe b'c he was told my guess by le that the perps were under the impression there was a safe with $100 k in cash in it located in that house and by some of the search methods it looked like they were looking for the said safe (even though we have determined that looking for a safe under drywall is down right silly).
but yes I agree the method of execution (lets not fuck around this was an execution) was so evil it seems the motive was either revenge or heat of the moment. heat of the moment while seems crazy and I agree is low on my list of possiblities would be Johnny stabs and cuts them up pretty well b4 they get control of him, the craziest of the bunch in the heat of the moment might do something like the bags then. (but it seems they had a lot of time to look around so its hard to believe they were running around the place bleeding while they looked.) Note my theory of johnny fucking them up to the point of homicidal rage is based on something "unknown" posted toward the begining of the thread stating that johnny stabbed them. Also the tape could have been brought to tape hands and feet, and even over the mouth to shut people up. It didn't just have to be for taping bags. Last the bags could have been bought with the intent to kill with, with the idea that it was the most evil way envisioned, but on the other hand if someone was going into a home to subdue the occupants with duct tape but not kill, and then get the combination to the safe from johnny (since he told people he was given the combo) then all your coming for is $100k in cash and a couple big strong bags from bed bath and beyond (as mentioned twice on this thread) would be great to carry the bills out. johnny fucks them up, they in return kill them both. Also I think it has to be someone in that circle b/c how else would they know where to find johnny, 20mintes into the suburbs, almost in the country. sorry rambling.
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-28-2011
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It was Lisa's Uncle I believe that first brought up this non-existant safe so how could Johnny rant and rave on to all his friends about it - Johnny
loved Lisa he wouldn't ramble on about her home to people - so I rule robbery out - I do rule vengeance in definately - it's all a bit too far out for the average robber to haul in his bags and duct tape. Who had a grudge against Johnny or Lisa?
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Are you gullible or what? You think that just because Johnny loved Lisa that "he wouldn't ramble on about her home to people"? Of course he did. Johnny had a big mouth and he bragged to people all the time that he was living with a girl from the "good side of the tracks". No, she wasn't rich. She didn't have nannies or maids but she did have much more than Johnny or his friends had ever seen!
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-28-2011
Ok, I'm going to bed now...with a smile on my face!
I have to get up early tomorrow and go to work...I don't hustle and throw up gang signs all day.
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-28-2011
My thinking regarding Tiffany is that she's a gang banger hoodrat, just like the circle of people she hangs with. She is a person of interest in the murders because she claims to have spoken to the victims just prior to their demise. She also puts herself at the scene right around the time of the murders. None of this makes her guilty of murder, of being an accomplice or of conspiracy. She may be completely innocent of any involvement and the law gives her that presumption.
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - dontbedumb - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:11 AM)pspence Wrote: She has another baby the way. I fear for these children. Don't you??
Of course I have concerns about that and all children in that lifestyle ...however...I am not in her living room...I do not know how she is around them...for all I know when her children are around she doesn't do those things you mentioned. I've scrolled through all of her pictures...I have never once seen her children around when partying like that...the pictures of her children are ones at the beach, outside playing eating popcycles......
As of now, she's not around them. She doesn't have them! An I sure as hell hope that when this next child is born (possibly in prison) they take it as well. Pictures don't lie!!!! Plus she had to of done something infront of them.
TIFFANY'S RAPSHEET
Case Number Defendant Date of Birth Charge
CRA-07-13713-0103 WILLIAMS, TIFFANY 09/16/1986 TRAFFICKING IN DRUGS SELL OR OFFER TO SELL
CRA-07-13713-0203 WILLIAMS, TIFFANY 09/16/1986 POSSESSION OF DRUGS OBTAIN POSSESS OR USE A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
CRA-07-13713-0303 WILLIAMS, TIFFANY 09/16/1986 PERMITTING DRUG ABUSE amended from POSSESSION OF DRUGS OBTAIN POSSESS OR USE A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
NOTE:::::
CRB-08-16956-0102 WILLIAMS, TIFFANY 09/16/1986 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from ENDANGER CHILDREN;CREATE SUBSTANTIAL RISK TO HEALTH OR SAFTETY
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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LedZeppelin - 02-28-2011
I am trying to read all new posts, so please forgive me if someone already post it. VC girlfriend have new FB account from Feb 15th, Tiffany is no more on her friends list...
Here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.
FACEBOOK PAGE OF NOT-NAMED PERSON EDITED OUT BY LC.
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:46 AM)curious Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:20 AM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:12 AM)curious Wrote: Thank you, kitty.
God, I feel so sorry for those people having to live in that house. My guess is that they don't have the kind of money that would allow them to let it sit empty and live elsewhere.
Nice innuendo
What do you mean, "innuendo"? I'm assuming they aren't wealthy and able to afford leaving their house. I can't imagine how horrible that would be. Who wants to live where someone has been murdered - especially your child!!!
No, no, no...what i should have post is "nice oxymorone"...as to the theory about a safe and the family having money being the motive for the crime (which i disagree)...just disregard, i to can't imagine the pain being inflicted on the Straubs...so disregard comment, stupid one at that!!
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No sweat
If the Straubs are like the rest of us, they have a mortgage and are stuck where they are. A house in which a murder took place is hard to sell. Can you imagine trying to do it in a depressed market? They can't even cash out and move away. How could you cook in that kitchen where your daughter was tortured?! How could you sleep in a house where psychopathic killers have been? Memories are huge part of what make up our realities. I would have to leave and make new memories, far, far away - like New Zealand or something. I don't know how they're keeping their shit together.
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:56 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: I am trying to read all new posts, so please forgive me if someone already post it. VC girlfriend have new FB account from Feb 15th, Tiffany is no more on her friends list...
Here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.
OMG, prob best post to date...note she's friends with a relative of one if the guys JC was arrested for armed robbery with...does anyone know if she was ever involved with JV??
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - NightOwl - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 01:05 AM)shitstorm Wrote: No sweat
If the Straubs are like the rest of us, they have a mortgage and are stuck where they are. A house in which a murder took place is hard to sell. Can you imagine trying to do it in a depressed market? They can't even cash out and move away. How could you cook in that kitchen where your daughter was tortured?! How could you sleep in a house where psychopathic killers have been? Memories are huge part of what make up our realities. I would have to leave and make new memories, far, far away - like New Zealand or something. I don't know how they're keeping their shit together.
Ditto!
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:56 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: I am trying to read all new posts, so please forgive me if someone already post it. VC girlfriend have new FB account from Feb 15th, Tiffany is no more on her friends list...
Here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.
Nor is AP in her friends list. This is pretty significant since she was in so many photos with Tiff.
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - wanttoknow - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:56 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: I am trying to read all new posts, so please forgive me if someone already post it. VC girlfriend have new FB account from Feb 15th, Tiffany is no more on her friends list...
Here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.
Looks like loves on the rocks. Nothing like a pissed off woman to sing like a bird.
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RJs-Ex - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:56 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: I am trying to read all new posts, so please forgive me if someone already post it. VC girlfriend have new FB account from Feb 15th, Tiffany is no more on her friends list...
Here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.
From her latest posts, it looks like she and VD broke up. Interesting...
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RJs-Ex - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 01:25 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:56 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: I am trying to read all new posts, so please forgive me if someone already post it. VC girlfriend have new FB account from Feb 15th, Tiffany is no more on her friends list...
Here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/
Looks like loves on the rocks. Nothing like a pissed off woman to sing like a bird.
Tru dat, my nigga!
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Inspector Gary - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 12:05 AM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-27-2011, 11:41 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hey everyone! I've been pretty quiet on this forum. Just reading everyone else's posts. I'm going nuts because I could answer some of the questions some have asked. I don't want to saboutage the investigation and out of respect for the family I have kept my mouth shut. Someone mentioned that Lisa's facebook has been removed. The Straubs moved back home so they probably discontinued it. I can't even imagine going back there.Regarding the house being ransacked a family member went with the crime scene clean-up people and stated that the whole house was ransacked. Things were broken and thrown about. The perps even took the heater/air conditioning vents off? (I do know someone who didn't believe in banks so that is where he hid his money). And like I've said before Maytee was strange and DANGEROUS before any of this happened! Sorry that's all I can say for now. And yes I'm still very new so you can take it with a grain of salt if you must!
Thank you, kitty.
God, I feel so sorry for those people having to live in that house. My guess is that they don't have the kind of money that would allow them to let it sit empty and live elsewhere.
I can not imagine having to return to the crime scene, much less live there. Their house is now a nightmare and they are trapped inside.
Kitty, you said you're going nuts because you could answer some of the questions. Are there any questions that you feel comfortable answering?
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - NightOwl - 02-28-2011
It was Lisa's Uncle I believe that first brought up this non-existant safe so how could Johnny rant and rave on to all his friends about it - Johnny
loved Lisa he wouldn't ramble on about her home to people - so I rule robbery out - I do rule vengeance in definately - it's all a bit too far out for the average robber to haul in his bags and duct tape. Who had a grudge against Johnny or Lisa?
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(02-28-2011, 12:49 AM)kitty1 Wrote: Are you gullible or what? You think that just because Johnny loved Lisa that "he wouldn't ramble on about her home to people"? Of course he did. Johnny had a big mouth and he bragged to people all the time that he was living with a girl from the "good side of the tracks". No, she wasn't rich. She didn't have nannies or maids but she did have much more than Johnny or his friends had ever seen!
No I'm not gullible thank-you very much! What is this bragging bit about, Lisa didn't own anything her father the truck driver did - so Johnny tells them the place is a gold mine LOL so all the southsiders can show up - who gives a damn about nannies and maids - things and stuff don't make the person - it sounds to me like you think Johnny was after her just for $$$!!!
RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - wanttoknow - 02-28-2011
(02-28-2011, 01:28 AM)RJs-Ex Wrote:(02-28-2011, 01:25 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:(02-28-2011, 12:56 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: I am trying to read all new posts, so please forgive me if someone already post it. VC girlfriend have new FB account from Feb 15th, Tiffany is no more on her friends list...
Here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com
Looks like loves on the rocks. Nothing like a pissed off woman to sing like a bird.
Tru dat, my nigga!
no wuz ur nigga):...
