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RE: Stand Your Ground - Duchess - 08-04-2013
It's so funny when you call him Maggotyboo. That's Ramsey's lovey dovey name for him. You're supposed to blow him a kiss when you call him that.
RE: Stand Your Ground - Jimbone - 08-04-2013
It amazes me how much attention can get focused on events that rarely happen.
RE: Stand Your Ground - Cynical Ninja - 08-04-2013
Unarmed people being blown the fuck away seems to be getting less and less rare in the US with every passing day.
I'm not surprised, the stand your ground laws facilitate it.
I'm skeered! Bang! You're dead!
RE: Stand Your Ground - Jimbone - 08-04-2013
Way to fall for the sensationalistic media coverage. Gun violence in the US is on the decline, and has been for over a decade.
But by all means, keep swallowing the media jizz and stop thinking for yourself. Don't do google searches or find contrary statistics to question what you are being sold. And whatever you do, don't EVER try to be objective...
I mean who needs facts when we can just get whipped up by the story of the day!
RE: Stand Your Ground - Cynical Ninja - 08-04-2013
(08-04-2013, 11:21 AM)Jimbone Wrote: Gun violence in the US is on the decline, and has been for over a decade.
The number of unarmed people being shot and killed in the US is on the INCREASE largely because of stand your ground laws.
You know, I'm skeered! Bang! You're dead!
But please continue to swallow the NRA jizz and spin and stop thinking for yourself!
I mean who needs facts when you can get whipped up by whatever Wayne LaPierre has to say on the subject?
RE: Stand Your Ground - Jimbone - 08-04-2013
(08-04-2013, 01:46 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: The number of unarmed people being shot and killed in the US is on the INCREASE largely because of stand your ground laws.
You know, I'm skeered! Bang! You're dead!
Source? Please back up your claim if you want to really have an informed discussion.
(08-04-2013, 01:46 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: But please continue to swallow the NRA jizz and spin and stop thinking for yourself!
I mean who needs facts when you can get whipped up by whatever Wayne LaPierre has to say on the subject?
I don't rely on the NRA, because they are too one sided. What they say is biased. I rely on my own fact finding... for example:
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf
I think the Department of Justice using Centers for Disease Control data provides fairly accurate statistics, don't you?
In case you aren't interested in reading, here are some of the highlights:
* Firearm violence has decreased 39% since 1993
* Non-fatal firearm crime has declined 69% since 1993
Oh, and looky here:
* During the time 2007-2011, less than 1% of victims in non-fatal violent crimes report using a firearm to defend themselves! (Oops, there goes the narrative about people just shooting other people willy nilly!)
You're up. Dazzle us.
RE: Stand Your Ground - Maggot - 08-04-2013
These laws are not strict enough I guess.
Under the Brady Act, you cannot have a gun for personal or business if you:
1. Were convicted of a crime punishable by being in prison for more than one year;
2. Are a fugitive from justice;
3. Are addicted to, or illegally use, any controlled substance;
4. Have been ruled mentally defective by a court, or are committed to a mental institution;
5. Are an illegal alien living in the United States unlawfully;
6. Received a dishonorable discharge from the U.S. Armed Forces;
7. Renounced your U.S. citizenship, if you are a U.S. citizen;
8. Are subject to a court restraining order that involves your 'intimate partner,' your partner's child, or children; or
9. Were convicted of domestic violence in any court of a misdemeanor.
RE: Stand Your Ground - Cynical Ninja - 08-04-2013
Gun crime is UP in Indiana, Arkansas, North Carolina and Louisiana and several other smaller states.
There are around 550 murders in the UK every year there were 12,226 murders in the US in 2011. And before you wheel out the old chestnut America has a larger population so of course will have more murders. The US population is FIVE times bigger than the UKs the US murder rate is TWENTY TWO times higher than the UK.
Over 8 and a half thousand of the 12 thousand US murders were done with a firearm.
Having a policy of “I'm skeered! Bang! You're dead!” Will create a lot more Zimmermans.
RE: Stand Your Ground - Cynical Ninja - 08-04-2013
(08-04-2013, 03:18 PM)Maggot Wrote: These laws are not strict enough I guess.
Under the Brady Act, you cannot have a gun for personal or business if you:
1. Were convicted of a crime punishable by being in prison for more than one year;
2. Are a fugitive from justice;
3. Are addicted to, or illegally use, any controlled substance;
4. Have been ruled mentally defective by a court, or are committed to a mental institution;
5. Are an illegal alien living in the United States unlawfully;
6. Received a dishonorable discharge from the U.S. Armed Forces;
7. Renounced your U.S. citizenship, if you are a U.S. citizen;
8. Are subject to a court restraining order that involves your 'intimate partner,' your partner's child, or children; or
9. Were convicted of domestic violence in any court of a misdemeanor.
Are all these laws enforced at gun shows?
If all these laws are actively enforced how come so many homicidal sociopaths buy firearms legally pray share with the class maggotyboo?
RE: Stand Your Ground - username - 08-04-2013
I'm pretty sure the Brady Act was allowed to expire.
Never mind. I guess it was just the assault weapons part.
RE: Stand Your Ground - SIXFOOTERsez - 08-04-2013
Killings by CCW owners are something under 1% of the firearms murders. The vast majority of handgun murders are committed by people that are in no way entitled to own one, they broke Many laws just picking the thing up. A few more laws are Not going to make that go away, if you haven't clicked to it yet, criminals don't pay a lot of attention to laws.
RE: Stand Your Ground - SIXFOOTERsez - 08-04-2013
The blacks don't seem to care about blacks killing blacks, but they sure as hell don't like when one of us does it for them.
Check this little asshole out
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/bronx_shot_dead_after_exchanging_ARxbLxHk5yqkDMsKMhdr4M
RE: Stand Your Ground - Jimbone - 08-04-2013
See, now if CN had bothered to read the report, he would not have thrown the old 'gun show' strawman up!
* in a 2004 survey of state prison inmates who had committed a crime with a gun, less that 2% of those criminals obtained their weapons at a gun show or flea market.
RE: Stand Your Ground - SIXFOOTERsez - 08-04-2013
The anti gun nuts are NOT interested in facts, like all the ones that put the Lie to their battle cries.
RE: Stand Your Ground - BlueTiki - 08-05-2013
(08-04-2013, 11:02 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: I'm not surprised, the stand your ground laws facilitate it.
I'm skeered! Bang! You're dead!
Of course you're '"skeered". . . you have a phobia concerning guns.
I suspect with Blacks, too.
Hence the avoidance of the proud military family tradition and a foray into a sport almost devoid of niggers.
Too bad Skittles didn't get his tough on a bit quicker and kill tubbie.
In Florida, the reality is that SYG laws favor Blacks at a rate far out proportioning the White population:
"Approximately one third of Florida “Stand Your Ground” claims in fatal cases have been made by black defendants, and they have used the defense successfully 55 percent of the time, at the same rate as the population at large and at a higher rate than white defendants, according to a Daily Caller analysis of a database maintained by the Tampa Bay Times.
Additionally, the majority of victims in Florida “Stand Your Ground” cases have been white.
African Americans used “Stand Your Ground” defenses at nearly twice the rate of their presence in the Florida population, which was listed at 16.6 percent in 2012."
Stay "skeered" but know a nigger has got your back in Florida.
RE: Stand Your Ground - Maggot - 08-06-2013
Yet in Florida, some of the most ardent defenders of the law have been black defense attorneys. The reason: Their black, often young, clients are the most successful users of the law. Indeed, data show that black defendants have a high success rate in invoking stand your ground in black-on-black violence. In fact, if all cases are taken into account, black defendants have a higher success rate in claiming stand your ground than do white defendants, and they attempt to claim stand your ground at higher rates.
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RE: Stand Your Ground - BlueTiki - 08-06-2013
(08-06-2013, 10:49 AM)Maggot Wrote: In fact, if all cases are taken into account, black defendants have a higher success rate in claiming stand your ground than do white defendants, and they attempt to claim stand your ground at higher rates.
Another "Inconvenient Truth" Barry, Eric, Al and Jesse must overcome.
It's only murder when a non-colored pops a coon . . . with or without SYG.
RE: Stand Your Ground - Maggot - 08-06-2013
A new word I learned today.......Nergophobia.
RE: Stand Your Ground - BlueTiki - 08-06-2013
(08-06-2013, 11:09 AM)Maggot Wrote: Nergophobia.
N-E-R-G . . .
Thanks, Rams!
RE: Stand Your Ground - Maggot - 08-06-2013
See........I caint even spell it!