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WOW! JUST WOW! - Duchess - 10-30-2013
A family in Conn. had their checking & savings account cleaned out by the state for back taxes. The husband had lost his job and there was no extra money to pay the taxes. All their money was going to live day to day.
I am floored that the state has the power to do that. I really am. This is shocking to me.
RE: WOW! JUST WOW! - ramseycat - 10-30-2013
Wrong on so many levels. There has to be more to the story than they just took all their money though.
RE: WOW! JUST WOW! - Duchess - 10-30-2013
Here's the story in full so you can see for yourself -
The only thing worse than taxes owed is taxes owed that you can't afford to pay.
Gina Sullivan, who says her unemployed husband and two teenage boys were living paycheck-to-paycheck this summer in Enfield, made only token payments on her back taxes but not enough to satisfy the state.
Guess who won this tug-o'-taxes? The state, of course, with an emphatic liquidation in mid-August of two family bank accounts.
"I check my bank account, as I do every day," says Sullivan, "and noticed both my checking account and savings account had zero balances. I immediately called my bank and they told me the state of Connecticut took that money. They even took the $35 that we had in our savings account."
The state, it turns out, wants to help people like the Sullivan family, and not by draining their bank accounts.
The state's latest 60-day tax amnesty program, which expires Nov. 15, offers incentives to deliquent taxpayers in the hopes of recouping some of the estimated $400 million owed in back taxes by about 80,000 taxpayers. (The state Department of Revenue Services, says spokeswoman Sarah Kaufman, is on target to reach the $35 million goal for the program established by state lawmakers.) Each year, the DRS recovers an average of $150 million in unpaid back taxes.
The amnesty program includes almost every state tax except local property taxes and even non-filers of state tax returns (except for motor carrier road taxes) from the period ending on or before Nov. 30, 2012. Applications must be filed electronically through the Amnesty Taxpayer Service Center (www.makeitrightct.com).
Once enrolled in the amnesty program, a taxpayer's interest on the amount owed is reduced by 75 percent and all penalties will be waived for both individual taxpayers and businesses. To receive the amnesty benefits, taxes due must be paid by the end of the amnesty program, Nov. 15.
Sullivan, like many taxpayers, was unaware of both the periodic amnesty program and the always-available payment plans that do not forgive penalties and interest but permit a sensible, affordable payment schedule.
Her tax troubles began with an unexpected bill in February after the DRS discovered an error during an audit of their 2007 tax return. She and her husband, Mike, owed an additional $483 from that tax year. Add to that a $50 penalty and $284.97 in interest.
"I asked if they just discovered this error, how could they charge us a penalty fee plus interest," says Sullivan, a content manager for 17 years at UnitedHealth Group. "They said that is how it worked. I explained to them that my husband was laid off for a year and that we will pay what we can."
When she filed her 2012 state returns in April, the family owed $279. She paid $50, telling the state that's all they could afford with her husband still unemployed. The next month, she says, the state sent a bill that included a penalty and interest.
The Sullivans' situation improved, at least temporarily, in May. Her husband, laid off as a golf course superintendent, found a job at Chicopee (Mass.) Country Club but at half the salary of his previous job. That same month, Gina Sullivan says she received one more notice from the state requesting payment for the total taxes owed, now $1,160.18. Sullivan says the notice included a warning that the state could withhold future refunds to pay off the debt. But she didn't make an additional payment.
Story
RE: WOW! JUST WOW! - sally - 10-30-2013
The State and IRS can freeze and garnish your bank account for back taxes, penalties and interest at any time and the bank does not have to notify you about it. My accountant died of cancer and he forgot to electronically file our 2011 form 941. I had no idea until they just started sending me letters about it recently saying I owe $1000 in penalties, I had to take the notices to my new accountant to try to figure out what they were charging me for. This last notice they sent did say they will garnish it from our bank account.
I'm going to try to get them to waive it since my accountant died of cancer, but they'll probably tell me to get fucked.
RE: WOW! JUST WOW! - ramseycat - 10-30-2013
They took all their money for a $1600 tax bill? You'd think they owed thousands for years and were not attempting to pay it.
RE: WOW! JUST WOW! - sally - 10-30-2013
They can take what they are owed, but I'm pretty sure they have to send a final notice of intent to levy first. I don't believe she didn't receive a levy notice, she probably just ignored it.
RE: WOW! JUST WOW! - Donovan - 10-30-2013
There is more to that story I'm sure. If somebody unemployed over a year is still ppaying out s state taxes that large there is a financial misstep. Especially with kids in the picture. Their tax bill should run toward returns.
RE: WOW! JUST WOW! - Maggot - 10-30-2013
They should have started a bank account in someone elses name. Or just used cash. Either way there are ways around government intrusion.