(06-27-2016, 04:06 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: I personally think women should be allowed to wear whatever they want, have a few drinks and not have to worry about being raped. Society feels differently though. What are your thoughts on the subject? Should these things (drinks and attire) ever be considered for a sex crime? Has any woman ever "asked for it?"

(06-28-2016, 08:08 AM)cannongal Wrote: Most men think with the wrong head at bars, Maybe there should be a public awareness campaign about not buying women drinks and expecting them to put out after they grind on you. Put up little posters for the men's room and such. They can put it right next to the condom machine.

I'm a hypocrite about this kind of thing. I don't much like it owning that, I'm just being honest. I don't think any woman ever asks for it, I want to be clear on that.

There is this woman that I see online, her name is Amber Rose. She dresses extremely provocative, she talks like that too, she twerks up against men, she makes comments about what their balls smell like, etc. She has a "walk" that she does to raise awareness about slut shaming. She doesn't like being called a slut because of how she dresses, because of how she presents herself and because of how she talks. My feeling is, if you're going to act like a slut, talk like a slut, dress like a slut, you have no business complaining when you're treated like a slut. This "walk" came about because she heard a cop say that a woman who had been raped, had asked for it because of her provocative nature, it was because of how she was dressed.

Some women put themselves in the position to be raped. You cannot spend hours grinding up against a man and letting him touch you and then cry foul when he takes what you have been offering.

That kinda makes me feel like a traitor to my own species by saying that.

(06-28-2016, 03:24 AM)Love Child Wrote: Ask yourself this blindgreed1, have you ever given your clothing a second thought before going out? Wondering if perhaps it could be sending the "wrong message"?
Have you ever not gone somewhere, walked somewhere, or not parked your car somewhere for a slight thought even in the back of your head that you could be assaulted or raped?
I mean some guys might think about defending themselves from an assault or attack-but have you ever been told to park near the lights, look under your vehicle as you approach it, etc etc....
It is as if I didn't do these things then well I can expect to be raped or assaulted because I parked in a dark area of the parking lot, didn't look under my car, was wearing heels and a skirt and so that gave a person a right to assault me and in a court of law-these things would come up.

In these cases the woman is blamed for doing these things-hell why the hell was she out of her house by herself? And if she was in her house, were all of her doors and windows locked?

Nice song by the way.

Even though I think people should be able to wear what they want and drink what they want-if I had a daughter I would teach her how the world is and to protect herself, and I hate that. I would want to be able to raise a son and a daughter in the same way and I probably would, but I think there would be a difference, but there shouldn't be. I would want to raise them up with confidence and not to take any shit from anyone.

(06-28-2016, 08:08 AM)cannongal Wrote:

(06-27-2016, 04:06 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: I personally think women should be allowed to wear whatever they want, have a few drinks and not have to worry about being raped. Society feels differently though. What are your thoughts on the subject? Should these things (drinks and attire) ever be considered for a sex crime? Has any woman ever "asked for it?"

In no scenario whatsoever should rape considered "Asked for"

As a cocktail waitress-bartender for 15 years, I can say this-

Some women need to hold themselves to much higher standards in a bar. I have seen a lot of women come in wearing the shortest skirts and tightest shirts, and grind on men, and flaunt their boobs to get free drinks all night, -I've seen guys get pissed when they realize they spent so much money on the purty little thing that just walked out the door.


In a perfect world, we'd all be able to walk around nekkid, and nobody'd give you a second look. However, we live in a society where men like looking at tits and ass, mix it with alcohol and sometimes you end up with a recipe for disaster.

Most men think with the wrong head at bars, Maybe there should be a public awareness campaign about not buying women drinks and expecting them to put out after they grind on you. Put up little posters for the men's room and such. They can put it right next to the condom machine.

(06-28-2016, 11:35 AM)Duchess Wrote:

I'm a hypocrite about this kind of thing. I don't much like it owning that, I'm just being honest. I don't think any woman ever asks for it, I want to be clear on that.

There is this woman that I see online, her name is Amber Rose. She dresses extremely provocative, she talks like that too, she twerks up against men, she makes comments about what their balls smell like, etc. She has a "walk" that she does to raise awareness about slut shaming. She doesn't like being called a slut because of how she dresses, because of how she presents herself and because of how she talks. My feeling is, if you're going to act like a slut, talk like a slut, dress like a slut, you have no business complaining when you're treated like a slut. This "walk" came about because she heard a cop say that a woman who had been raped, had asked for it because of her provocative nature, it was because of how she was dressed.

Some women put themselves in the position to be raped. You cannot spend hours grinding up against a man and letting him touch you and then cry foul when he takes what you have been offering.

That kinda makes me feel like a traitor to my own species by saying that.

(06-29-2016, 01:54 PM)Donovan Wrote: We live in a culture that hypersexualizes children, glorifies and represses healthy sexual identity simultaneously, and encourages women to treat sex as a bartered commodity while teaching men that it's a matter of conquest. If we live in a rape culture it's one we created for ourselves and we all share the blame for it.

(06-29-2016, 04:00 PM)Donovan Wrote: Don't mention it FOTY.

(06-29-2016, 12:30 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:

(06-28-2016, 03:24 AM)Love Child Wrote: Ask yourself this blindgreed1, have you ever given your clothing a second thought before going out? Wondering if perhaps it could be sending the "wrong message"?

No, but please understand you're asking someone who has a "Jesus was a cunt" Cradle of Filth T-shirt.