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- Duchess - 09-11-2008
As I was looking at the smoke from the first tower being hit I saw the second plane fly into the other tower...I knew what I had seen but, it was almost like my brain could not process it, it was so unbelievable...Sometimes I feel like people have forgotten that day.
- The Antagonist - 09-11-2008
My niece made it out of the building just in time to have to run for her life to stay out of the rubble as it came down.
My friend Dennis got an urn full of dirt because they couldn't find his cousin's body.
We could smell and see the smoke all the way to the Jersey Shore where I live for weeks.
My brother was on the big machines on the clean up crew.
My friend Bobby helped look for bodies.
I watched those towers being built. We used to cut school and play in the elevators during the construction.
As long as we keep adding separate wash basins in schools, prayer rooms in airports and time out to pray in public places to accomodate the muslims, they win.
As long as we keep our tongue tied and not say anything 'offensive' about Mohammed, they win.
As long as you think terrorists captured in battle deserve the same rights as Americans have, they win.
As long as we convert to Islam, they win. That is their whole goal, converting the world to their brand of Islam. And they're winning every time you hear some whimpy politician say how Islam is a faith of love hijacked by radicals. It is not a faith of love. It never has been. It is why my family left the middle east at the turn of the 20th century. We didn't want to be muslim.
- Liquid - 09-11-2008
My X wife had a meeting in Tower 1 the day the planes hit. Her office called while she was on the way in on the train to stop by the office first, at their building a few blocks from the Towers. She went there first as instructed right as the first plane hit. They were basically trapped in their building all day and the rubble and everything else fell down and then spread outward everywhere in the area. the doors to her building were literally blocked for some time. Of course no one could reach her since cell phone service went down because everyone in NYC was making calls at exactly the same time to find out about people, so there was some very tense and upsetting hours while we watched on TV what everyone else was watching. I had moved out of the city by that time and was living in NC and watched on TV all while trying to call her family to get any info. Of course I could not get through for hours. Was a bad day. Still upsets me to this day since I lived, breathed, ate, and worked in the city for 8 years. My friends and I lost 2 friends that day who were in the building.
- Maggot - 09-11-2008
I remember watching the cranes on top of the towers from the Empire state building and being told they would be the tallest buildings in the world. That morning everybody at work was in the lobby watching it on television and the phones rang but nobody answered them we were all in shock..........It was around 9 am or so.
- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
From a topic at another site I run, here is a listing of names and some pics in a topic called:
September 11, 2001 - A Digital Memorial
- Cynical Ninja - 09-11-2008
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- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
I did feel that Guliani got way too much "credit" for "being there" at 9-11.
- Liquid - 09-11-2008
He did what needed to be done at the time. Looking back it is easy to think differently, but at that exact moment in time he did (in my opinion) exactly what was needed by the person in his position in NYC. I thought what he did was pretty good.
- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
He did nothing special, I thought.
- The Antagonist - 09-11-2008
Middle Finger Wrote:He did nothing special, I thought.I dunno, handing back that multi-million dollar check that was given as asuck up don't sue me gift (bribe)by the Saudi's on TV was pretty damn good IMO.
- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
Any half-way decent politician would have done that at that time. Bought him more votes for his political career, too. They are all whores.
- The Antagonist - 09-11-2008
there arent many half way decent politicians and there are more who'd take the money instead.
There were no votes he could have bought at the time. His tenure as mayor was up. He's not held any office since.
- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
Oh please, most if not all Mayors in his position would never have taken a pay off, are you kidding? After a 9/11? No votes to be bought!? You think he didn't have Presidential plans? You are kidding yourself. He did the right thing, but it was also the only decent option - it would have been ridiculous for him NOT to. Like I said, nothing special.
- The Antagonist - 09-11-2008
Dinkins and Lindsay probably would have taken it!
And yeah, he had his sights on other offices, but there is always the possiblity that he could have said no thanks on TV and taken the money privately behind closed doors, which I doubt.
I wouldn't put that scenario past the two above.
As for it being all about Guiliani, not in the least. 9⁄11 has the least to do with him than it does with the crux of what happened and the lives lost. That's what we're remembering today, not discussing Guiliani's ethics in relation to it. Not everything happened in NYC that day.
- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
Sure it's POSSIBLE he could have taken the money privately but that's not a realistic option for a politician who wants to run for President some day. It's too big of a risk - it would get out. As for what we are discussing or remembering, that is for everyone to decide. Personally, I can remember and discuss it all, and every aspect.
- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
What really got me were the people who suffered and resorted to, or preferred, jumping to what they were going through. That kind of stuff always upsets me no matter how long it has been or what even we are talking about.
From 9/11:
![[Image: trade_narrowweb__300x4780.jpg]](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d57/b_gardenia/911/trade_narrowweb__300x4780.jpg)
- Duchess - 09-11-2008
Not one thing in my life had prepared me to see something like those poor souls jumping, some of them holding hands...
- Lady Cop - 09-11-2008
it tore me up also. i'll never forget the horror of it.
- Liquid - 09-11-2008
I lived in NYC during Guiliani's time as mayor and putting aside 9⁄11 for a minute - the city COMPLETELY changed and cleaned up under his watch. That much is hard to argue about. i was actually there and saw the endless arrests of the mob people, the additional police on the trains and the general cleaning up of the city everywhere. Again beyond the terrible 9⁄11 the city was a better place during Rudy's time in office compared to any recent time before him.
- Middle Finger - 09-11-2008
He definitely deserves credit for cleaning up crime in the City, no doubt about it!