+- Mock (https://mockforums.net)
+-- Forum: Serious Shit? (https://mockforums.net/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: Discussions, Opinions & Debate (https://mockforums.net/forum-11.html)
+--- Thread: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? (/thread-3442.html)
Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Middle Finger - 12-13-2009
Do dangerous animals ever attack or hurt someone even though they were not provoked? Has there even been an animal that was hungry and wanted to eat a child for food? Has there even been an animal that stalked human prey and attacked, even though they were not provoked?
Do canines ever participate in that type of activity?
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - LKTraz - 12-13-2009
The answer to all of the above is yes.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - LuMPyPussy - 12-13-2009
Does Frank ever post comments that make it sound like dogs have plans to overthrow humankind?
Yes, yes he does.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Middle Finger - 12-13-2009
(12-13-2009, 02:44 PM)LuMPyPussy Wrote: Does Frank ever post comments that make it sound like dogs have plans to overthrow humankind?
Yes, yes he does.
:;crazy::
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - D - 12-13-2009
Not very often, though we may not understand what provoked them so the attacks may SEEM unprovoked. For instance an abused animal that associates a certain sound with the abuse or their abuser, may attack someone who is making that sound for seemingly no reason.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Maggot - 12-13-2009
How many seconds does it take a dog to tear off an arm? It makes a difference because it has a direct relationship with dog eye emergency surgery.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - twisteroo - 12-13-2009
I have a purring cat sitting on my lap right now that could either go to sleep or rip me to shreads without any prior warning.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Maggot - 12-13-2009
(12-13-2009, 04:52 PM)twisteroo Wrote: I have a purring cat sitting on my lap right now that could either go to sleep or rip me to shreads without any prior warning.
::lol:: I mean
: ::lol::
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Middle Finger - 12-13-2009
(12-13-2009, 03:58 PM)D Wrote: Not very often
Interesting ... that coincidentally describes the frequency of kids being killed by pitbulls.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Cynical Ninja - 12-14-2009
If you hear a child has been savaged to death by a dog is it wrong to make the initial assumption that the dog in question is some kind of pitbull breed?
No, because it probably is.
On the question can animals attack unprovoked?, yes, although the method of provocation may be unfathomable to a human it may be clear to a animal.
For example my friend Kerry has a rottweiler that is as soft as shit, before going to her house for a dinner party for the first time she told me "Don't touch Stella's belly she doesn't like it and she might bite".
If Kerry hadn't told me that and I had touched the dog's belly and she bit me who is at fault?, me or the dog?
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - D - 12-14-2009
(12-14-2009, 11:38 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: On the question can animals attack unprovoked?, yes, although the method of provocation may be unfathomable to a human it may be clear to a animal.
Didn't I already say that? And 99% of the time that is EXACTLY what happens.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Cynical Ninja - 12-14-2009
Its still no excuse for being bitten though, if you did something insignificant to provoke someone without you realising would you accept it if they punched you?, no, nor should you accept an animal biting you, they should be trained not to bite anybody.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - D - 12-14-2009
(12-14-2009, 12:31 PM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: Its still no excuse for being bitten though, if you did something insignificant to provoke someone without you realising would you accept it if they punched you?, no, nor should you accept an animal biting you, they should be trained not to bite anybody.
Maybe in your example it isn't insignificant asswipe. Maybe her dog has a pain there? If you had a wound and I shoved my finger in it, would that be reason for you to attack me? Yes.
But thank you for also making my point for me. It isn't the dog. It is the humans involved that are at fault. One way or another.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Cynical Ninja - 12-14-2009
So if you had a wound I didn't know about and I unknowingly put my hand on it you would punch me? Good luck trying to explain that one to the police as they arrest you.
The fact is dogs do go out on their own and attack/kill people.
Period.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - The Antagonist - 12-14-2009
(12-14-2009, 11:38 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: <snip>
For example my friend Kerry has a rottweiler that is as soft as shit, before going to her house for a dinner party for the first time she told me "Don't touch Stella's belly she doesn't like it and she might bite".
If Kerry hadn't told me that and I had touched the dog's belly and she bit me who is at fault?, me or the dog?
Kerry's fault 100%.
Knowing full and well that her dog could bite anyone if they touched her belly and did not put the dog away is irresponsible. Telling someone or not has no bearing. She should take precautionary measures regardless of how sweet the dog is EXCEPT if you pet it's stomach.
People cannot be expected to remember your rules for petting the animals at all times. People forget and go to their own habits too easily.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - D - 12-14-2009
(12-14-2009, 01:51 PM)The Antagonist Wrote:(12-14-2009, 11:38 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: <snip>
For example my friend Kerry has a rottweiler that is as soft as shit, before going to her house for a dinner party for the first time she told me "Don't touch Stella's belly she doesn't like it and she might bite".
If Kerry hadn't told me that and I had touched the dog's belly and she bit me who is at fault?, me or the dog?
Kerry's fault 100%.
Knowing full and well that her dog could bite anyone if they touched her belly and did not put the dog away is irresponsible. Telling someone or not has no bearing. She should take precautionary measures regardless of how sweet the dog is EXCEPT if you pet it's stomach.
People cannot be expected to remember your rules for petting the animals at all times. People forget and go to their own habits too easily.
I actually disagree with you here. If someone tells me not to pet their dog, or not to touch a certain spot on their dog, I don't. Habits or not. Why? Because each dog is an individual, and I treat them thus.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Middle Finger - 12-14-2009
The Antagonist is getting fully antagonized. ::lol::
Poor Ant, putting up with us dopes disagreeing with her so much.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - The Antagonist - 12-14-2009
STFU Frank.
D, you apparenlty are the exception to the human race. I can not expect every person to remember my rules about petting an animal and especially if I have a house full of people. What about children? Are you to expect every parent there to watch over the kid in case they accidentally pet the dog's belly? Better to be 100% safe and put the dog away.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - Middle Finger - 12-14-2009
(12-14-2009, 02:21 PM)The Antagonist Wrote: STFU Frank.
Just for that I'm fully backing up D and adding how that touch-belly-biting dog should be PUT DOWN.
RE: Can animals attack or kill people even if unprovoked? - D - 12-14-2009
... Frank, I never said the dog should be put down. I think you're hallucinating again. Lay off the bong man.
Ant, maybe I am, but we do this at my Mom's house with her Jack Russel... you can pet him, IF he allows it. If he starts to growl... leave him the fuck alone or you WILL get bit. He gives you plenty of warning first, but sometimes he just doesn't want to be touched. And know what? She has occasionally had drunken fools ignore that. They get bit. Who's fault? Theirs. And a house full of people is different too, then the animal should be put away. But for just a couple guests they should be able to follow the rules.