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What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-07-2010

i know you were in Hungary recently...this is horrible! what do you think about this? did you see any of this? i keep thinking of the beautiful old classic waltz "The Blue Danube". Signs_173


Devescer, Hungary (CNN) -- Toxic red sludge that leaked from a reservoir in Hungary reached the Danube, Europe's second largest river, on Thursday as emergency officials worked to contain as much of the leak as possible.

"It is a huge tragedy for the whole country," said Anna Nagy, a Hungarian Disaster Management offical. "We love the Danube, we're very proud of the Danube and we tried to protect it."

"I hope we can save the life in the river," she said.

Hungary needs time to calculate the cost of the disaster, saying that the government's first response had been to try to save lives and clean homes.

Tibor Dobson, a top disaster management official, told CNN that the sludge -- which flowed from an aluminum plant reservoir that burst on Monday -- is less dangerous than it was when it spilled.

Officials believe pH levels have dropped to within an acceptable range, making the river safe, Dobson said. They are monitoring the Danube for sign of toxicity, such as dying fish.

Nagy said pH levels had fallen to 9.1. That's more alkaline than neutral, which is 7 on the scale, but much less than it was originally, at 13, the Catastrophic Protection Unit said.

Emergency workers were pouring plaster and fertilizers in hopes it would bind with the sludge and counter its alkalinity.

The environmental disaster -- which occurred nearly 100 miles west of Budapest near the town of Ajka -- has killed two children, ages 1 and 3, an elderly woman and a 35-year-old man whose SUV overturned in the sludge.

About 250 people have been evacuated from their homes, said Gyorgi Tottos, a spokeswoman for Hungary's Catastrophe Protection Unit.

The reservoir has since been repaired and the flow from the pool halted. But the material that flowed out of the reservoir continues to pose a threat.

Hungary has not asked for European Union help in cleaning up the spill, the EU said Thursday.

Normally the "operator should be liable" for cleaning the spill, assuming they had all the normal environmental certificates, European Commission environment spokesman Joe Hennon said Thursday.

It would "be up to Hungary to recover the costs" from the operator, he said.

The plant received an operating permit in 2006, he said. The European Commission is studying a copy of the permit and sees nothing wrong with the paperwork so far, he added.

The aluminum factory has said it will pay for the victims' funerals.

It has property and liability insurance, insurer Allianz Hungaria Biztosito told CNN, but would not say how much.

Residents were advised not to eat produce from gardens that were covered when the dam burst.

It was not clear when residents evacuated from affected areas in the villages of Kolontar, Devecser and Somlovasarhely would be able to return home. The long-term consequences of the leak were also unclear.

In some villages, police with guns patrolled some of the villages to keep looters at bay.

A state of emergency has been declared in three counties, the State Secretariat of Governmental Communications said.



RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-07-2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTqlLKBKFhg


RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-07-2010

i couldn't nick the photos, here is a gallery. it's awful!
click:


Blue Danube


RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - sally - 10-07-2010

Fucking Hungarians, we got out of there just in time. This is a picture of the village my husband is from, it's about an hour from Budapest.


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RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-07-2010

how does he feel about what has happened there? it's a true disaster.


RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Maggot - 10-07-2010

If I saw a wave of red stuff coming at me at a high rate of speed, I would not want my last word to be "SHIT!!!!" What a freakin mess! How many gallons were released? That would be my first question, my next might be the elements of the earth that could filter some of it in that area (ie. clay,sand,gravel) I would then check the weather conditions for rain hoping for some dilution. If it was spread out over some areas it may filter better than others. How many dams in that area? Tons of questions come to mind. Good luck with that Bulgarians!


RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - sally - 10-07-2010

(10-07-2010, 07:37 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: how does he feel about what has happened there? it's a true disaster.
It's just as much of a disaster as every other disaster. Maybe we'll eventually destroy the whole world.




RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Maggot - 10-07-2010

Damn! I hope I spelled all that shit right! Smiley_emoticons_razz


RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-09-2010

this lady's comment struck me funny....in an unfunny situation.


DEVECSER, Hungary – The cracking wall of an industrial plant reservoir appeared on the verge of collapse late Saturday, and engineers were working to blunt a possible second wave of the caustic red sludge that has already deluged several towns in western Hungary and killed seven.

Residents of one nearby town were evacuated, others were ordered to be ready to evacuate, and everyone was bracing for a new onslaught of toxic material.

"If another wave comes, I was thinking of standing on top of the kitchen table," said Maria Gyori, a 79-year-old homemaker in the town of Devecser. Maybe the sludge won't go that high."



RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - sally - 10-09-2010

I'm sure it's going to have an effect on their paprika. There is something about the soil there that produces the best tasting peppers.


RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-09-2010

you're right, that's some good stuff, and i'm going to get a couple extra tins.
it's quite good, but i had a friend in daytona who was deathly allergic to it, i had to be careful about certain recipes.

fuck your national disaster folks, save the paprika!

that's terrible. 50



RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Duchess - 10-10-2010



I had no idea that shit actually had a purpose other than adding pretty color to deviled eggs & potato salad.



RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - sally - 10-10-2010

They use it in almost everything over there. I brought some homemade paprika back with me and I'm going to try to make goulash. Hungarian goulash is actually a spicy beef and vegetable soup, for some reason Americans seem to think it's a thick stew served over noodles.


RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-10-2010

(CNN) -- Residents were evacuated and soldiers were on standby Sunday as authorities believe a damaged reservoir wall may unleash a second wave of toxic sludge onto a Hungarian village, an official said.

The cracked wall is expected to collapse, Gyorgi Tottos, spokeswoman for Hungary's Catastrophe Protection Directorate, told CNN Sunday. "We know that it will happen," she said, although when is unknown.

Some 8,000 people have been evacuated from the village of Kolontar, leaving it essentially empty, she said. Hundreds of soldiers were at the ready to rescue inhabitants of a nearby village when the wall collapses.

The exact chemical composition of the sludge has not been revealed, but aluminum processing normally involves compounds that include cyanide, cadmium and chromium. JESUS!



RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Lady Cop - 10-11-2010

if it was china, they'd take him out and shoot him.

BUDAPEST — The managing director of the company whose reservoir unleashed a lethal torrent of red sludge on three villages last week has been arrested, the Hungarian prime minister announced before Parliament on Monday.
He will be charged with criminal negligence leading to a public catastrophe, and if convicted could face a sentence of up to 10 years, according to a government spokeswoman.

The arrested man, Zoltan Bakonyi, works for MAL Zrt, the Hungarian Aluminum Production and Trade Company. He was not available for comment and a spokeswoman for Mal Zrt did not return phone calls.



RE: What do you think Sally?~~ - Maggot - 10-11-2010

All this talk of sludge and Paprika has me thinking of yes, government cheese. I remember back in the day my mother would make me and my 5 other siblings Mac&cheese breakfast,lunch and supper she would sprinkle paprika on the dish and sometimes add slices of tomato fresh from the garden. Those were the days! Smiley_emoticons_kotz