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Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Ma Huang Sor - 05-24-2012
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Declaring that "life must always be protected", a senior Vatican cleric has defended the Catholic Church's decision to excommunicate the mother and doctors of a nine-year-old rape victim who had a life-saving abortion in Brazil.
Cardinal Giovanni Batista Re, who heads the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, told reporters that although the girl fell pregnant after apparently being abused by her stepfather, her twins had, "the right to live, and could not be eliminated".
In an interview with the Italian newspaper, La Stampa, the cardinal added: "It is a sad case but the real problem is that the twins conceived were two innocent persons. Life must always be protected."
Police believe the girl was sexually assaulted for years by her stepfather, possibly since she was six. That she was four months pregnant with twins emerged only after she was taken to hospital complaining of severe stomach pains.
The controversy represents a PR nightmare for the Vatican. The unnamed girl's mother and doctors were excommunicated for agreeing to Wednesday's emergency abortion yet the Church has not taken formal steps against the stepfather, who is in custody. Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, the conservative regional archbishop for Pernambuco where the girl was rushed to hospital, has said that the man would not be thrown out of the Church, because although he had allegedly committed "a heinous crime", the Church took the view that "the abortion, the elimination of an innocent life, was more serious".
The case has set off fierce debate in Brazil, where abortion is permitted only in cases of rape or a medical emergency. Brazil is one of the most populous Catholic countries, but conservative attitudes in rural areas are strongly at odds with the relatively progressive public view of abortion in major cities.
Even the President, Luiz Ignacio Lula da Silva, has waded into the row. "As a Christian and a Catholic, I deeply regret that a bishop of the Catholic Church has such a conservative attitude," he said "The doctors did what had to be done: save the life of a girl of nine years old. In this case, the medical profession was more right than the Church."
One of the doctors involved in the abortion, Rivaldo Albuquerque, has raised the prospect of public clashes at his local church, telling Globo, the nation's main TV network, that he would keep going to mass there, regardless of the archbishop's order. The young girl at the centre of the case escaped excommunication only because she is still a child in the eyes of Church authorities. The stepfather, who is 23, was arrested last week, apparently trying to escape to another region of the country. Police say he is also suspected of abusing the girl's handicapped 14-year-old sister. He is in protective custody, and if convicted faces up to 15 years in prison.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - ramseycat - 05-24-2012
I suppose they should have let the little girl die.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Ma Huang Sor - 05-24-2012
That ones going to bite them in the ass, is my guess.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Jimbone - 05-24-2012
The ability of the Catholic church to find new public relations disasters is uncanny.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Donovan - 05-24-2012
I'm shocked. Usually the Catholic Church is so perceptive in sensitive situations like this. Not like them to be hopelessly in the wrong and protecting the wrong people.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - QueenBee - 05-24-2012
Sounds about right...they excomunicate an innocent child, but will just transfer the pedophile priests to other churches.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - HairOfTheDog - 05-24-2012
More sound reasoning from the Catholic Church.
At least da Silva's thinking straight and was willing to make a public declaration that the doctors and the mother got it right.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Middle Finger - 05-24-2012
This is what happens when you try to square away semi-retarded bronze age philosophies with secular modern day sensibilities.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Cynical Ninja - 05-28-2012
(05-24-2012, 02:45 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: This is what happens when you try to square away semi-retarded bronze age philosophies with secular modern day sensibilities.
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This man goes to Catholic church every sunday, he is a facilitator of bronze age philosophies and the terrible crimes committed in their name.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - ramseycat - 05-28-2012
(05-28-2012, 09:35 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:(05-24-2012, 02:45 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: This is what happens when you try to square away semi-retarded bronze age philosophies with secular modern day sensibilities.
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This man goes to Catholic church every sunday, he is a facilitator of bronze age philosophies and the terrible crimes committed in their name.
He only goes so his wife will bang him. A little game of Let's Make a Deal between husband and wife.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Ma Huang Sor - 05-28-2012
are you that cynical? When did sex (especially good sex) become currency?
Tell me I'm being naive and effeminate, bitches
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - cladking - 05-28-2012
I suppose this is consistent with their policy of protecting priests who molest children. I'm a little concerned though that it isn't consistent with the hearsay that old churches being torn down often found to have babies stashed in the walls.
Life is indeed precious but the life of a nine year old real person who is a victim of rape is more precious than any number of potential people she might be incubating. They have no right to force their philosophy even on the faithful. It is wrong, evil even, to ask a nine year old to die because of philosophy.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - ramseycat - 05-29-2012
(05-28-2012, 11:18 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: are you that cynical? When did sex (especially good sex) become currency?
Tell me I'm being naive and effeminate, bitches
It's true! He even posted it here that he goes to church because his wife wants him to go with the family. Then he gets a BJ.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Middle Finger - 05-29-2012
(05-28-2012, 09:35 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:(05-24-2012, 02:45 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: This is what happens when you try to square away semi-retarded bronze age philosophies with secular modern day sensibilities.
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This man goes to Catholic church every sunday, he is a facilitator of bronze age philosophies and the terrible crimes committed in their name.
Actually, I haven't gone in many months. I claimed being allergic to that powdery white bullshit they spray around sometimes, while wearing their fantasy monk costumes.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Middle Finger - 05-29-2012
(05-28-2012, 12:01 PM)ramseycat Wrote:(05-28-2012, 09:35 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:(05-24-2012, 02:45 PM)Middle Finger Wrote: This is what happens when you try to square away semi-retarded bronze age philosophies with secular modern day sensibilities.
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This man goes to Catholic church every sunday, he is a facilitator of bronze age philosophies and the terrible crimes committed in their name.
He only goes so his wife will bang him. A little game of Let's Make a Deal between husband and wife.
The only real banging you ever get is the few times a year some pot on top of your fridge falls off and whacks you in the head.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Middle Finger - 05-29-2012
(05-29-2012, 05:52 AM)ramseycat Wrote:(05-28-2012, 11:18 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: are you that cynical? When did sex (especially good sex) become currency?
Tell me I'm being naive and effeminate, bitches
It's true! He even posted it here that he goes to church because his wife wants him to go with the family. Then he gets a BJ.
Family, wife, blow jobs ... please, pretty please ... for once, refrain from talking about things you have had little success with.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - ramseycat - 05-29-2012
(05-29-2012, 10:01 AM)Middle Finger Wrote:(05-29-2012, 05:52 AM)ramseycat Wrote:(05-28-2012, 11:18 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: are you that cynical? When did sex (especially good sex) become currency?
Tell me I'm being naive and effeminate, bitches
It's true! He even posted it here that he goes to church because his wife wants him to go with the family. Then he gets a BJ.
Family, wife, blow jobs ... please, pretty please ... for once, refrain from talking about things you have had little success with.
You are just embarassed that you go to church so you can get a blow job. You should be ashamed of yourself! But I guess a man will do whatever he has too to get a bj.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - Middle Finger - 05-29-2012
(05-29-2012, 10:04 AM)ramseycat Wrote:(05-29-2012, 10:01 AM)Middle Finger Wrote:(05-29-2012, 05:52 AM)ramseycat Wrote:(05-28-2012, 11:18 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: are you that cynical? When did sex (especially good sex) become currency?
Tell me I'm being naive and effeminate, bitches
It's true! He even posted it here that he goes to church because his wife wants him to go with the family. Then he gets a BJ.
Family, wife, blow jobs ... please, pretty please ... for once, refrain from talking about things you have had little success with.
You are just embarassed that you go to church so you can get a blow job. You should be ashamed of yourself! But I guess a man will do whatever he has too to get a bj.
I can guaran-fucking-tee you that I am in no way embarrassed to admit that I enjoy and try to earn blow jobs. You, however, should be embarrassed that to give one you either have to be paid or pitied.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - ramseycat - 05-29-2012
OH please MF. The only way you can get a bj is to do something for your wife. That is embarassing. She doesn't just feely pleasure you because she wants to. It's Let's Make a Deal the couple version.
RE: Catholic Church excommunicates 9yr old rape victim and Mom in Brazil - username - 05-29-2012
(05-29-2012, 11:12 AM)ramseycat Wrote: OH please MF. The only way you can get a bj is to do something for your wife. That is embarassing. She doesn't just feely pleasure you because she wants to. It's Let's Make a Deal the couple version.
feely pleasure...
