Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Sonny223]

He probally had enough time to let a few rounds down range , if it was locked and loaded. IMO

[Nina]

Post from one of AG' s friends (BH) today. Probably not related but this is mentality of his group:
When ya'll see a snitchin ass nigga on the streets handle ya'll mothafuckin' buisness and light his ass up! Shoutout to my bros in the county trying to beat these cases! Free my bros Joker, Vxxxxx, Lalo, Casper, Gxxxx, Exxxx, and Rxxx and for Goofy you snitchin ass dude, I hope you get whats coming to you in prison!
(I x'd out first names unless they appear to be nicknames)

[Sonny223]

What a bunch of fake tough guys, also why in the fuck would you be on sidelines bumping your gums if you had anything to do with this case. Street smarts for rookies, always keep Yo mouf shut!

[Sonny223]

Give the fucking punks some coffee and let em talk, bring them in on new charges, have a CI on the inside set the fucks up, I'm sick and tired of hearing about them already. I guarantee at least a few of these fags are snitches.

[Miss Conspiracy]

Post from one of AG' s friends (BH) today. Probably not related but this is mentality of his group:
When ya'll see a snitchin ass nigga on the streets handle ya'll mothafuckin' buisness and light his ass up! Shoutout to my bros in the county trying to beat these cases! Free my bros Joker, Vxxxxx, Lalo, Casper, Gxxxx, Exxxx, and Rxxx and for Goofy you snitchin ass dude, I hope you get whats coming to you in prison!
(I x'd out first names unless they appear to be nicknames)

definition of Loser(s).

[Nina]

Appears this guy is serving in Afghanistan. The comments on this post talk about one of these guys he named being in for murder. AG comments that he heard the guy doing the posting was working w police.

[pplrcrazy]

Post from one of AG' s friends (BH) today. Probably not related but this is mentality of his group:
When ya'll see a snitchin ass nigga on the streets handle ya'll mothafuckin' buisness and light his ass up! Shoutout to my bros in the county trying to beat these cases! Free my bros Joker, Vxxxxx, Lalo, Casper, Gxxxx, Exxxx, and Rxxx and for Goofy you snitchin ass dude, I hope you get whats coming to you in prison!
(I x'd out first names unless they appear to be nicknames)

ok i looked for BH on AG's friend list and i don't see that person??? nothing with BH... pm me

[Freshbait78]

Appears this guy is serving in Afghanistan. The comments on this post talk about one of these guys he named being in for murder. AG comments that he heard the guy doing the posting was working w police.

I did some digging & see that some of these guys are accused of attempted agg murder for firing on a police officer (cruiser) a dozen times & all anyone has to say about it is fuck snitches?

[pplrcrazy]

This is BH's comment on another friends page for a link on what those hoodrats did to end up in jail.... BH: Ma bros bout to beat that shit fuck all dat snitchin shit karma a motherfucka cuz ain't all da homies locked down....

Really and hes serving in the military, thats nice to know we have people over there like that fighting for our country... what a damn joke..

[kfran]

People like BH ( I believe he's in the National Guard) are pussys when it comes to serving. They never get far in rank, will always be enlisted until they graduate from college & go to officers course, which we can probably bet BH won't do. He probably cries on drill weekends when his SGT or Commanding officer beats his ass. People like my husband eat soldiers like BH alive.

[truth be told]

Also a comment on the times. Just remember this. Part of the time is going by what Tiffany said when she was "susposedly" on the phone with Johnny. That shows in his phone records. We dont quite know what is the truth on that since she has different stories. For all we know she could have been at the scene and calling his phone for alibi when the crime was taking place.

I believe there is something in the last sentence here: How do we actually know that it was Johnny on the other end of the phone with Tiff. It could have actually been the killers beginning their early "staging" of the crime scene. The call where Tiff heard Johnny saying "who are you" lasted just a few seconds, so it could have been anyone and could have been a distant voice with outside ambience mixed with it...so it may have just been assumed that it was Johnny since it was from his cell.

[truth be told]

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Here's my crack at it:

Time line

Unknown Johnny leaves tv viewing party.
Unknown Johnny picks up Lisa.
Unknown Johnny and Lisa arrive at Straubs.
11:00 p.m. Tiffany converses with Lisa.
11:00 p.m. Tiffany converses with Johnny.
12:00 p.m. Tiffany drives to Johnny's house to ring bell and peer in windows.
12:30- 12:50 a.m. Tiffany calls Sherita.
12:50- 1:10 a.m. Tiffany talks to John Sr.
1-1:20 a.m. Tiffany picks up John Sr. (We know this was before the second 911 call.)
1:21 a.m. Maytee calls 911.
1:28 a.m. Police arrive on scene. Number of cars? Stay how long?--- 4 units, stayed for approx 11 minutes
1:30 a.m. Tiffany and John Sr. arrive at Straubs'.
1:39 a.m. Police depart from the Straub residence
2:06 a.m. Maytee makes second call to 911. (Is she in the car?) --- Yes she is in the car.
2:10 a.m. Maytee arrives at Straubs'.
2:10 a.m. Police arrive at Straubs'. Stay how long? How many cars? 2 units, stay approx 36 minutes
2:46 a.m. Police depart from the Straub residence
Unknown Tiffany departs Straubs'.
Unknown Maytee and John Sr. depart Straubs'.
Unknown Maytee and John Sr. return to Straubs'.
Unknown Maytee and John Sr. break in door and find kids.
3:50 a.m. Maytee and John Clarke Sr. call 911 and state that they have kicked in door and kids are cold
Unknown Police arrive at death scene.
Unknown Detectives arrive at death scene.
Unknown Television interviews parents outside the Straub home.


Yellow = Fact
Blue = my guess

One fact from the timeline is the fire-fighters coming to Maytee's home after the 1^st 9-11 call. You can hear the dispatcher ask her if she wanted a crew sent to the location. Well, they did in fact show up on Danberry street that night so taken that into consuideration....fire fighters probably arrived @ 1:30 am, stayed a few minutes and were gone 1:45-1:50 am. Then it is approximately 15 minutes to the Straubs from Danberry.

[Sonny223]

I would like to know previous to the party they had at her parents house. When the last time TW actually hung out with JC and LS. I know they scoped the place very well while at this party, which IMO was prob one of the very few times she was even in that residence.

[truth be told]

Opps, I double posted last entry sorry. Computer acting up.

[Sonny223]

I would like to know previous to the party they had at her parents house. When the last time TW actually hung out with JC and LS. I know they scoped the place very well while at this party, which IMO was prob one of the very few times she was even in that residence.

[Nina]

Detectives can't trace something they don't know about now can they. Also JC is known to dabble in the weapons from what I've heard, just want to know if had his gun on him that night. That's probally the night he needed it most.

Just a note on guns......AG tells BC that he still keeps his gun under his shirt. That was in response to BC's posting a song about somebody is about to get hurt. On JANUARY 29^th!!! Right before the murders

[Sonny223]

I would imagine IMO, some good survillance is going on I'm sure of it, emails, cell phones, house phones, good old fashion police work. Not to mention Facebook, undercovers hidden all over Toledo son. The killers are fucked, IMO, LE had to please the holland people by saying it was a out of town professional hit.

[WolfHouse]

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The 1 30 arrival of Tiffany and John Sr. would have to be
a few minutes earlier as we heard Tiff on the phone and
detectives were talking to people while Maytee sat in the
car 'pinning' Tiff's car.


Yellow = Fact
Blue = my guess

One fact from the timeline is the fire-fighters coming to Maytee's home after the 1^st 9-11 call. You can hear the dispatcher ask her if she wanted a crew sent to the location. Well, they did in fact show up on Danberry street that night so taken that into consuideration....fire fighters probably arrived @ 1:30 am, stayed a few minutes and were gone 1:45-1:50 am. Then it is approximately 15 minutes to the Straubs from Danberry.

[WolfHouse]

Re the firefighters EMS squad, or rescue unit or whatever....
can anyone check to see if they indeed went to the Clarke
house and at what time they arrived and left?

That was a great idea TBT.

WH

[imsuchawildflower]

I would imagine IMO, some good survillance is going on I'm sure of it, emails, cell phones, house phones, good old fashion police work. Not to mention Facebook, undercovers hidden all over Toledo son. The killers are fucked, IMO, LE had to please the holland people by saying it was a out of town professional hit.

According to my family and friends that are police officers, it usually goes back to old fashion police work...crimes usually arent solved in 30-60 mins like tv....that almost never happens. And when it does, they still have
to dot the i's and cross their t's for court. I think youre right...
LE is all over these murderers like stink on shit.