Back to Libya...

[Duchess]

Political bullshit turns decent people into assholes.

It certainly does.

[IMaDick]

Soldiers fight because of politics not for politics.

They don't have the choice of picking and choosing the battles that align with their own political beliefs, they follow orders ,they fight for a cause that rises above the political arena.

Anyone who believes that their freedom is not protected by the force of military might, may have a need for enslavement to occur, for a loss of freedom so real that they long for it's return.

I do however agree that what we see today is not the same freedom that was won in the revolution, we are now a country that is ruled by the government rather than a country where the people rules themselves through representation.

[IMaDick]

Challenge your own integrity douche bag, I have no axe to grind unless you think that having family in every war this country has ever fought, having brothers and uncles killed in the fight for freedom and liberty to make me biased in anyway then you have no cause to challenge mine.

Stop living vicariously through the actions of family members.

Ring any bells fuckhole?

How does one live vicariously through the dead?

to quick to jump, to slow to realize it.

[thekid65]

I do however agree that what we see today is not the same freedom that was won in the revolution, we are now a country that is ruled by the government rather than a country where the people rules themselves through representation.

That's because a lot of those we've chosen to "represent" seem to be more concerned with their own well being/careers, as to that of the people. So where's the blame lie? Does it lie with the chosen ones, or those that continually keep on choosing the same ones?

Personally, I believe the whole system is fucked, and needs to be revamped. It's 250 years old for Christ-sakes.

[Cynical Ninja]

How does one live vicariously through the dead?

Your post I quoted was exhibit A dipshit.

[IMaDick]

How does one live vicariously through the dead?

Your post I quoted was exhibit A dipshit.

My post concerned dead people dipshit.

all of which I never knew.

perhaps you have finally reached the end of the internet?

[Cracker]

How many Gadaffi family members have we/UN killed to date?

Gaddafi's kids:

Gaddafi has eight children, seven of them sons. His eldest son, Muhammad Gaddafi, is by a wife now in disfavor, but runs the Libyan Olympic Committee and owns all the telecommunication companies in Libya.

The next eldest Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, was born in 1972, is a painter, runs a charity which has been involved in negotiating freedom for hostages taken by Islamic militants, especially in the Philippines. In 2006, after sharply criticizing his father's regime, Saif Al Islam briefly left Libya, reportedly to take on a position in banking outside of the country. He returned to Libya soon after, launching an environment friendly initiative to teach children how they can help clean up parts of Libya.

The third eldest, Al-Saadi Gaddafi, is married to the daughter of a military commander. Al Saadi runs the Libyan Football Federation, plays for Italian Serie A team U.C. Sampdoria, made billions of dollars in the petrol industry and produces films.

The fourth eldest, Mutasim-Billah Gaddafi, was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Libyan army. He fled to Egypt after allegedly masterminding an Egyptian backed coup attempt against his father. Gaddafi forgave Mutasim-Billah and he returned to Libya where he now holds the post of national security adviser and heads his own unit within the army. Saif Al Islam and Mutasim-Billah are both seen as possible successors to their father.

The fifth eldest, Hannibal once worked for a public marine transportation company in Libya. He is most notable for being involved in a series of violent incidents throughout Europe, including charges against him for beating up his then pregnant girlfriend, Alin Skaf. (In September 2004, Hannibal was involved in a police chase in Paris.)

Gaddafi has two younger sons, Saif Al Arab and Khamis, a police officer in Libya.

Gaddafi's only daughter is Ayesha Gaddafi, a lawyer who had joined the defense team of executed former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. She married a cousin of her father in 2006.

Gaddafi's reportedly adopted daughter, Hanna, was killed in the 1986 USAF bombing raid. At a “concert for peace” held on April 15, 2006 in Tripoli to mark the 20^th anniversary of the bombing raid, U.S. singer Lionel Richie told the audience:


“Hanna will be honored tonight because of the fact that you've attached peace to her name.”

In January 2002, Gaddafi purchased a 7.5% share of Italian football club Juventus for USD 21 million, through Lafico (“Libyan Arab Foreign Investment Company”). Though Gaddafi is an avid football fan, this more importantly continued a longstanding association with the late Gianni Agnelli, the primary investor in Fiat. Gaddafi has also become involved in chess: in March 2004, FIDE, the game's world governing body, announced that he would be providing prize money for the World Championship, held in June-July 2004 in Tripoli.

Lahore, Pakistan's primary cricket stadium, Gaddafi Stadium, is named after him.

In addition to his Green Book, al-Gaddafi is the author of a 1996 collection of short stories, Escape to Hell.

In November 2002, he hosted the Miss Net World beauty pageant, a first for Libya and as far as is known, the world's first to be held on the internet.

Gaddafi's personal bodyguard, the Amazonian guard, is composed of women who are martial arts experts and highly-trained in the use of weapons. The Amazonian guard accompanied him on his 2004 visit to Brussels.

[Cynical Ninja]

Yes, they are, Duchess. You ask any man on the ground and that's what they will say. The politicians may not care much for your freedom, but those boys do.

To say they aren't is utter disrespect. I think "freedom" translates more to safety nowadays, but that's why they do what they do. Take a minute next time you see one at the airport and ask him/her.

Political bullshit turns decent people into assholes.

You're talking shit again.

How was invading Iraq and Afghanistan "protecting" you from Egyptian and Saudi terrorists funded from Pakistan?

quacker criticises the US government one minute then sips the war mongering US government koolaid the next.

[Cracker]

perhaps you have finally reached the end of the internet?

He is so tiny, and full of shit, that he has created an Internet Singularity.

[IMaDick]

Anyone who has spent even one afternoon in the VA hospitals knows where the courage these soldiers exhibit comes from.

I can tell you right now it has very little to do with washington, and everything to do with home and the people of this country that live in towns like their home town.

[Cynical Ninja]

My post concerned dead people dipshit.

all of which I never knew.

Yet you still mention them and their actions to bask in their reflective glory!

[Cracker]

It isn't reflective glory, it's pride.

If your family would stop getting run out of every country in the UK, you would be able to develop this sense of pride and achievement.

[Cynical Ninja]

If your family would stop getting run out of every country in the UK, you would be able to develop this sense of pride and achievement.

[thekid65]

^^^ Nice post, dumbass...not only can you not comprhend a simple sentence..but you can't type one in repsonse to a quote.

* thekid65 waits for OP edit.

[Cynical Ninja]

It isn't reflective glory, it's pride.

Ah!, so dick can take pride in his dead relatives but I can't take pride in my living relatives without being mocked?

I see.

Rank hypocrisy thy name is quacker.

[Cynical Ninja]

^^^ Nice post, dumbass...not only can you not comprhend a simple sentence..but you can't type one in repsonse to a quote.

* thekid65 waits for OP edit.

Get your sore ass back to the newbie thread bitch, dick isn't done dicking with you yet.

[IMaDick]

Ah!, so dick can take pride in his dead relatives but I can't take pride in my living relatives without being mocked?

I see.

Rank hypocrisy thy name is quacker.

Poor little shitbird.

Those people represent a blood investment in this country, one which you nor anyone else can cheapen.

[Cracker]

Rank hypocrisy thy name is quacker.

I JUST made the hypocrisy comment about you today. Jeez, OP, use your own stuff.

This is you:

[thekid65]

I'll give props where props are due. It only took OP a few minutes to realize he forgot to add his attachment ( I helped the lil feller out a bit). Of course, most of us would have realized it in a matter of seconds..,,,

[Maggot]

How is Barrys war going anyway, I have not been keeping up, see there was this big wedding that was plastered everywhere for a few days, before that a bunch of tornados......who is winning Gaddafi or the extremists?