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STEM CELL RESEARCH
#21
I would be wary of how the stem cells were harvested. Once the foot is in the door would a drug addled woman become a little stem cell factory? The thing is that this is such a debate in a free society probably not so in a dictatorship or communist regime.
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#22
(06-13-2011, 12:18 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(06-13-2011, 09:44 AM)IMaDick Wrote: You have to be in favor of abortion to be in favor of fetal stem cell research. since I can't find a way to support abortion, then I have to dis approve of using the bodies of murdered babies for anything other than evidence of a crime.


It's goddamn awe inspiring to know that you have found at least two women that would find you even remotely tolerable.

Jesus Christ.

I didn't say anything about womens rights and their bodies, I posted my personal opinion.



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(06-13-2011, 02:57 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I posted my personal opinion.


Yes, I know, that's what moved me to post the response I did.


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(06-13-2011, 12:21 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(06-13-2011, 11:16 AM)IMaDick Wrote: which is what your daughter is ,a germ and a burden to the rest of society.


You've reached a new all time low with that crack.

OP called the baby a germ not me, I simply let him know that a fetus doesn't change from a germ to a person in some magical way, if its a person then it is a person from the moment of conception till it dies.
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#25
You just posted it to the wrong person, not your fault, I'm sure that OP had his head so far up your ass that you just couldn't think straight.
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#26
This is not a person you fucking numbskull.



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#27
If it is a human embryo it is. but since it looks like it's in a petrie dish, it's probably dead.

OP, if you want to equate your kid with a germ have at it wad sucker, I just chose not to agree with you.

and for that matter anyone else who thinks that dehumanising the incubation and birth of a child to be politically correct and right.

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#28


So...you're totally against research then?
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(06-13-2011, 03:11 PM)IMaDick Wrote: but since it looks like it's in a petrie dish, it's probably dead.


Au contraire.


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(06-13-2011, 03:11 PM)IMaDick Wrote: If it is a human embryo it is. but since it looks like it's in a petrie dish, it's probably dead.

OP, if you want to equate your kid with a germ have at it wad sucker, I just chose not to agree with you.

and for that matter anyone else who thinks that dehumanising the incubation and birth of a child to be politically correct and right.

Its a zygote not even a embryo yet, put the fucking Glenn Beck "reference" books and bible down and do some fucking research you mong.
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#31
Now there is a thought OP.

embryo : a vertebrate at any stage of development prior to birth or hatching
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#32
(06-13-2011, 12:21 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(06-13-2011, 11:16 AM)IMaDick Wrote: which is what your daughter is ,a germ and a burden to the rest of society.


You've reached a new all time low with that crack.

So now it isn't polite to talk shit about people's kids? Because I hadn't noticed before this...
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#33
(06-13-2011, 04:16 PM)Cracker Wrote: So now it isn't polite to talk shit about people's kids? Because I hadn't noticed before this...


Cracker, you're ALWAYS entitled to say whatever you want, I would never muzzle anyone in here. You have freedom of expression in anyway that you choose.


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#34
I don't mind stem cell research depending on where they harvest the cells. I have no qualms if they use adult cells from bone marrow or amniotic fluid cells or cells from umbilical cords from live births.

I don't know about using fertilized eggs. Any source that COULD have been a baby but was used for science is bad juju. What if you do get your soul at conception? Nobody really knows.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#35
"Hi there may name is ted the zygote. My interests include water sports and not being able to feel or do anything whatsoever. At the moment I am about as much like a baby or person as the contents of a hanky the last time you blew your nose!"
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Is the fact that the remains will be discarded anyway irrelevant?
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(06-13-2011, 04:27 PM)Cracker Wrote: I don't mind stem cell research depending on where they harvest the cells. I have no qualms if they use adult cells from bone marrow or amniotic fluid cells or cells from umbilical cords from live births.

I don't know about using fertilized eggs. Any source that COULD have been a baby but was used for science is bad juju. What if you do get your soul at conception? Nobody really knows.


Agree with Cracker and Dick. I Don't agree with using cells from aborted babies.

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(06-13-2011, 04:19 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Cracker, you're ALWAYS entitled to say whatever you want, I would never muzzle anyone in here. You have freedom of expression in anyway that you choose.

I know you weren't censoring.

I don't read his stuff so I don't know if he even bitched about it, just noticed how shit people do always comes back to them. Life is good like that. Smiley_emoticons_smile
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#39
(06-13-2011, 04:36 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote: Agree with Cracker and Dick. I Don't agree with using cells from aborted babies.

I didn't even think about aborted babies. That is a whole other world of fucked up. I was thinking about lab-fertilized petri dish embryos. Embryos in women are more developed before the carrier even would know she's pregnant.

If you get your soul at conception and end up in some ol' drunk lady's liver, does she then get to be a "young soul?"

I won't eat meat for a few days now because I got to thinking about souls. Good thing I have leftovers. No animals will die for me today.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#40
Hundreds of women have spontaneous abortions everyday and flush the little zygote and embryo matter right down the toilet. What's the difference what you do with the tissue whether it's an elective abortion or spontaneous?
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