Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Duchess]

It's been months & months of comments just like those that have made me feel the way I do regarding her. She made me feel this way, I didn't just wake up one morning and decide she was a despicable piece of work.

[1belle]

~Old post from a photo off of fb~Maytee commenting on a photo of TW~


Maytee: That nasty ass hoodrat tw eeeewwwww looks like she gots aids

Just a refresher here on Maytee at her finest

I rarely post and this just reminds me that there is probably a special place in satan's chamber for M. All she mostly does is attack people's character. Insecure bitch!

[LoserCity]

I noticed on the discovery response that JK and ET had been interviewed and read Miranda rights; I don't recall any of the other interviewees having signed a Miranda form. Is this significant?

Also - in the orignial discovery docs, page 3 lists letters and envelopes from MG, JS, and BAF. Are these letters sent to Williams while in the jail?

[NightOwl]

I noticed on the discovery response that JK and ET had been interviewed and read Miranda rights; I don't recall any of the other interviewees having signed a Miranda form. Is this significant?

Also - in the orignial discovery docs, page 3 lists letters and envelopes from MG, JS, and BAF. Are these letters sent to Williams while in the jail?

My guess is they were both taken in to custody here arrested and questioned and they signed the Miranda waiver. It could be very significant! The interview for JK was 5/6/11 & then ET 6/24/11 much earlier on in the year. Time will tell about them.

The letters & envelopes are another puzzle and don't forget R just plain R that letter & envelope - I can't believe it's fan mail for Samuel Williams.

Maybe someone else on Mock would know more about your 2 interesting questions.

[sharit]

What's the difference from wishing death on someone, or getting found guilty and recieving the death peanlty??

Truly, I say unto you, you can't be that stupid?

You don't see the difference between someone telling a mother whose son is in a war zone that she hopes he's bombed and killed & a person who commits a crime serious enough that it calls for the death penalty?

i agree that was a fucked up thing to say for a mother who just lost her son, when another mothers son, is fighting for her freedom.
Like 2 of mine. Still do not think she set them up. Just living that kind of life would make you think like she did. jmo

[sharit]

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[sharit]

90% chance your child will be raised in poverty and have children out of wedlock. You have doomed your own family just like Maytee. Good luck with all that, you will need it.
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cracker, i respect you and the way you think but i just had to chime in on this. 90% is way to high. How you are raised plays a huge part in it and the fact that your life is what you MAKE it. My oldest son was born out of wedlock and he is the best son ever and going to retire with the Air Force and he was married before he reproduced. Sonny says horrible shit, but no one should be told that they hope your family dies. Karma is a bitch and she does find you.

[Cracker]

cracker, i respect you and the way you think but i just had to chime in on this. 90% is way to high. How you are raised plays a huge part in it and the fact that your life is what you MAKE it. My oldest son was born out of wedlock and he is the best son ever and going to retire with the Air Force and he was married before he reproduced. Sonny says horrible shit, but no one should be told that they hope your family dies. Karma is a bitch and she does find you.

I didn't make up the 90% part, I just embellished a little (that figure is for children of color). Here is the data: According to a December 2010 National Vital Statistics Report generated by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, more than 41% of all births in the U.S. occur outside of marriage. Children born to a single mother have an 82% greater chance of living in poverty than those born to married parents.

Everybody thinks I make stuff up to be mean. I don't. I am more aware of societal issues that plague this country because of my profession. It is part of my job to know what I am working against. I see it all the time. I know what it costs society and I know how hard it is to get out of it.

Your son did well for himself, but he is the exception rather than the rule. The only way to change people is show them truth. Most won't see it, but some will. The truth sucks sometimes, but it is still the truth.

Some more sad facts: Along with age, race and ethnicity are important factors in out of wedlock fatherhood. While 37% of white fathers have had a child born out of wedlock, 72% of black men who are biological fathers have a child out of wedlock as do 59% of Hispanic biological fathers.

[sharit]

cracker, i respect you and the way you think but i just had to chime in on this. 90% is way to high. How you are raised plays a huge part in it and the fact that your life is what you MAKE it. My oldest son was born out of wedlock and he is the best son ever and going to retire with the Air Force and he was married before he reproduced. Sonny says horrible shit, but no one should be told that they hope your family dies. Karma is a bitch and she does find you.

PLEASE TRIM YOUR QUOTES LC

Sharit:
thank you cracker.

[NightOwl]

90% chance your child will be raised in poverty and have children out of wedlock. You have doomed your own family just like Maytee. Good luck with all that, you will need it.

cracker, i respect you and the way you think but i just had to chime in on this. 90% is way to high. How you are raised plays a huge part in it and the fact that your life is what you MAKE it. My oldest son was born out of wedlock and he is the best son ever and going to retire with the Air Force and he was married before he reproduced. Sonny says horrible shit, but no one should be told that they hope your family dies. Karma is a bitch and she does find you.

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Sharit, congratulations! it sounds to me like you did a grand job as a mother - you have a right to be proud!! I was really happy to hear your son was married before he reproduced.

[kitty1]

I challenged what she said about how a mother of a child who was just brutally murdered, and her feelings of hate, death, hope that the people did it die. That is quite normal feeling for a parent who just lost a child in a brutal way.

I believe that Duchess was referring to when Maydoo was wishing death upon a member's grown son and an unborn child.

Oops! Should have read to the end, I see that a few others have already tried to clarify this.

[pspence]

I'm taking a poll among Mockers.

Do you think (regardless of that she publically state she didn't know Samual W) that Maytee knew (even distantly) who Samual Wms, Cameo and/or Destiny were?

Do you think Lisa/Johnny Knew who they were?

Do you think TW and/or AG knew who they were?

Are you convinced TW was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and had nothing to do with this whatsoever?

[Duchess]

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

[JsMom]

I'm taking a poll among Mockers.

Do you think (regardless of that she publically state she didn't know Samual W) that Maytee knew (even distantly) who Samual Wms, Cameo and/or Destiny were?YES

Do you think Lisa/Johnny Knew who they were?Possibly

Do you think TW and/or AG knew who they were?YES

Are you convinced TW was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and had nothing to do with this whatsoever?YES

[NightOwl]

I'm taking a poll among Mockers.

Do you think (regardless of that she publically state she didn't know Samual W) that Maytee knew (even distantly) who Samual Wms, Cameo and/or Destiny were? NO

Do you think Lisa/Johnny Knew who they were? NO

Do you think TW and/or AG knew who they were? NO

Are you convinced TW was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and had nothing to do with this whatsoever?YES

[Pico45]

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

[lawheeze]

I'm taking a poll among Mockers.

Do you think (regardless of that she publically state she didn't know Samual W) that Maytee knew (even distantly) who Samual Wms, Cameo and/or Destiny were? YES

Do you think Lisa/Johnny Knew who they were? YES

Do you think TW and/or AG knew who they were? YES

Are you convinced TW was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and had nothing to do with this whatsoever? NO

[Duchess]

pspence, are you aware that you could make those questions an actual poll?

[undercovercameo]

I'm taking a poll among Mockers.

Do you think (regardless of that she publically state she didn't know Samual W) that Maytee knew (even distantly) who Samual Wms, Cameo and/or Destiny were?
Yes,several Vasquez-Clarke relatives have ties ( to some degree ) to all three arrested.

Do you think Lisa/Johnny Knew who they were?
I don't believe Lisa knew them,I do believe Johnny knew at least one.

Do you think TW and/or AG knew who they were? Yes

Are you convinced TW was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and had nothing to do with this whatsoever? Yes.