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They can't touch the pension, LC is correct.
Fuckers better sue him and penn state to bury them in debt so that pension goes where it belongs, to the victims.
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presser this morning
Live: Penn State officials concealed Sandusky's activities, probe says
An internal probe into the Penn State child sex abuse scandal found that top university officials, including former president Graham Spanier and then-head football coach Joe Paterno, concealed allegations of abuse by ex-assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky to "avoid the consequences of bad publicity."
Spanier and Paterno, as well as former university vice president Gary Schultz and ex-athletic director Tim Curley, failed to protect victims from Sandusky, the report found. "Some coaches, administrators and football program staff members ignored the red flags of Sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the public about him," the report says.
The probe's leader, former FBI Director Louis Freeh, also said Thursday that Curley consulted with Paterno following sex abuse allegations against Sandusky, and "they changed the plan and decided not to make a report to the authorities."
Penn State leaders showed 'total disregard' for victims, review finds
The 200-page findings of the Penn State-funded internal review were released Thursday morning. CNN is examining the report, and this page will be updated with details. The report focuses on what school officials knew about Sandusky's behavior. The scandal led some people to claim the school put its reputation ahead of protecting potential child victims.
A jury last month convicted Sandusky, 68, the Nittany Lions' former defensive coordinator, on multiple charges of sexually abusing 10 boys over a period of 15 years.
[Updated at 10:44 a.m. ET] The NCAA has reacted to the report, saying Penn State "now needs to respond" to four key questions that will help the NCAA decide whether it needs to take action:
“Like everyone else, we are reviewing the final report for the first time today," NCAA Vice President Bob Williams said. "As (NCAA) President Emmert wrote in his November 17 letter to Penn State President Rodney Erickson and reiterated this week, the university has four key questions, concerning compliance with institutional control and ethics policies, to which it now needs to respond. Penn State’s response to the letter will inform our next steps, including whether or not to take further action. We expect Penn State’s continued cooperation in our examination of these issues.”
[Updated at 10:40 a.m. ET] Freeh tells reporters there was an active agreement among top university officials to conceal sexual abuse by Sandusky.
"There are more red flags here than you can count," Freeh said, adding that the attacks occurred just "steps away" from where Paterno worked in the university's Lasch Building.
Freeh said he's not singling Paterno out. But he said Paterno is one of four Penn State leaders who evidence shows were "an integral part of an active decision to conceal" accusations against Sandusky.
Freeh said he wishes he had an opportunity to speak to Paterno, who died after a cancer battle in January, and show him the evidence, including e-mails and notes from meetings.
[Updated at 10:28 a.m. ET] CNN legal analyst Paul Callan says the report will be "a road map" for civil attorneys suing Penn State.
"Here you have (Penn State's) own investigator saying .. higher-ups aided and abetted" Sandusky, Callan said.
Callan says the report shows that after 1999, when Penn State officials knew of a 1998 investigation of Sandusky, they gave him emeritus status ... and allowed him to go on with his charity for disadvantaged children, Second Mile.
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The real stunner is how anyone could be shocked by this. There was no way that stuff could have gone on at that level without protection from above. Paterno's dead and if this killed him fucking good. Integrity of the program, my ass.
Thank god I am oblivious to the opinions of others while caught in the blinding splendor of my own cleverness.
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I think this has been discussed before, but with all the new evidence of a cover up and Penn's liability, can they strip him of his pension?
It just really pisses me off that after all this, they still pay this asshole and they pay him well.
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i don't have a link, but i read recently that PA. is trying to enact legislation to revoke the dirtbag's pension.
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Joe Paterno's statue was removed from the school today. HaHaFuckin'Ha.
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Good. I've said from the beginning that Paterno and the others involved were equally responsible for whatever happened from the moment they knew what Sandusky was doing. Paterno built a legacy on teaching young men the right and ethical thing to do, and when it mattered most he made lies out of all of it.
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It's mind blowing to me the number of people in positions of power that covered this up, absolutely incredible. I have no sympathy for anyone involved & I'm not willing to overlook Joe Paterno's involvement simply because of all the wonderful things he brought to that school, his coverup of this cancels out all the good.
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(11-09-2011, 02:53 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: (11-09-2011, 01:44 PM)Cheyne Wrote: My Opinion:
Joe Pa is morally culpable in this scandal, and shares the blame with everyone else who knew what Sandusky was doing, and did nothing directly to stop it. Legally he is off the hook as he did do the minimum required by law and U policy.
Very well stated, Cheyne! I'm in total agreement with you. He's known about this for years, and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
How's that legacy, Joe Pa? Not man enough to stand up and do the right thing... Turn your friend in to the police.
If one of these boys would've happened to be his son? or a nephew?
I'm guessing he would've wanted to kill Sandusky.
MikeyA-
I agree with virtually all of your takes out here, but you don't seem too upset at Joe or the pedophile in this case, instead aiming your sights on a janitor and a GA, who would definitely fear for their jobs.
Why the wimpy stance on this one?
Here's my first post from this thread.
Seems most of us smelled a rat right away except Mikey A.
How about that legacy now Joe?
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A statue honoring Penn State football head coach Joe Paterno has been torn down as the university bows to massive public outcry.
Penn State ordered the removal of the statue of Hall of Fame coach early on Sunday morning.
Workers lifted the statue off its base and used a forklift to move it into Beaver Stadium early Saturday as the 100 to 150 students watching chanted, 'We are Penn State.'
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WHOOOOOOOOOO. How did THAT taste Penn State? Sixty million dollar fines, no bowl games for four years, academic probation for five years, all eligible players current or incoming have free passes to transfer out...and all wins from 1998-2011 vacated. JoePa's legacy is officially dead. That takes away his "winningest coach" record and gives it to Bobby Bowden. And we haven't yet heard from Big Ten. Could be more to come...
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(07-23-2012, 10:10 AM)Donovan Wrote: Sixty million dollar fines, no bowl games for four years, academic probation for five years, all eligible players current or incoming have free passes to transfer out...and all wins from 1998-2011 vacated.
Wow! Just wow.
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You know what sucks about all that? It's not fair to the players and students. Those boys played hard for those wins and now they are being stipped of their glory. And why punish the players going forward? THE WRONG PEOPLE ARE BEING PUNISHED!! Levy the fines. Do what you have to do to the administrators and others that covered this mess up. But don't penalize the players.
Devil Money Stealing Aunt
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They're not punishing the current or incoming players, they've given every current and upcoming player a free pass to transfer to another program with immediate eligibility. Means there will be a fire sale at Penn State in a minute. They'll be starting the chess club when the season starts. As far as past players...it ain't about glory it's about money. And every player who was going to profit from his college record during the years affected has already done so. Glory is for fans and alumni. And if any of them have a problem with what went down perhaps they should be required to spend some time in the showers with Sandusky and see if they change their minds about whether the punishment fit the crime.
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Yea the players get a free pass to transfer but at what cost? It isn't like oh ok, I will just go to school over here instead. There is a lot involved. I do think the school and administration should suffer SEVERE consequences including financial penalties. But it's not fair to penalize the players. It's just not. And I would hope that for at least some of the players, it's about the game as much as it is about money.
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Too bad the old man isn't still alive to see what he helped to do to bring down that school's reputation AND the football program he dedicated his life to building.
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Someone at work today theorized that JoePa had asked his wife to put a pillow over his head when he was sleeping to allow him to die before the shit really hit the fan.
Maybe he'd had an idea of what might be coming?
I laughed at first, but now...
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You might be onto something there MS......curious....
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The ironic part for Joe Paterno [family] and the Penn State football legacy is this: If Joe had done the right thing and brought McQueary's allegations to the police, stood behind McQueary and let the law do it's job, he would have been hailed as a hero. Everyone would have appreciated how difficult it would have been for him to turn in Sandusky. Joe would have been praised to High Heaven for being honest, forthright and noble. (The same virtues he instilled in his players).
There may have been a small amount of fallout at the time, but Paterno would have earned people's respect and not lost everything. Sometimes people get away with horrible behavior when no one is looking. The concept of honor means you do the right thing even if no one else notices. Paterno was a man without honor.
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Don't know if I could've said it ^^^^ better if you'd given me a year to write it.
Bravo!
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