GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[Duchess]

No & neither did the coroner.

[Cynical Ninja]

Giving rifles to fucking five year olds?

You people sicken me sometimes.

You are nothing but a bunch of gung ho gun toting homicidal maniacs and if you continue to put gun ownership before innocent peoples lives you deserve every massacre and drive by that happens to you.

[Maggot]

Intent was replaced by stupidity. My daughter is 10 and can shoot her bb gun and is learning gun safety. When she is 11 or 12 she will have a .22 education is the key.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

This is not the problem:
In southern Kentucky, where children get their first guns even before they start first grade,

THIS is
Stephanie Sparks paid little attention as her 5-year-old son, Kristian, played with the rifle he was given last year

Stupid bitch and presumably baby daddy not paying attention to whats going on.
Kids should be taught guns are not toys, Nothing wrong with teaching them to handle guns.
Sounds like this one wasn't taught anything, neither was mom

[Maggot]

I agree if it wasn't a gun it would have been a chainsaw.

[HairOfTheDog]

Five years old is too young to handle a gun, even if the child has been educated, to the extent that a five year old can be.

Brain functionality that allows individuals to connect actions to potential consequences is just not sufficiently developed in a 5 year old.

Putting a loaded gun in the hands of a 5 year old, educated or not (and especially unsupervised), is the action of an adult with a 5 year old's level of smarts and wisdom, imo. It's a huge risk and it's just plain stupid.

[sally]

How are they even calling that an accident? Who the fuck leaves their 5 and 2 year old to play with a loaded rifle? That story is absolutely ridiculous, I didn't even know they made guns specifically for children.

[Duchess]

I don't like saying people deserve what they get in these types of situations, it's just too cuntish but really, what the hell did they expect would happen with no supervision. I wouldn't hand over the keys to the car to a five yr. old either. I'm tempted to make a wisecrack about people from Kentucky.

[Maggot]

I do agree the parents are idiots.

[sally]

Education is key. I think I'm gonna teach the baby how to roll a joint and chop up a line of coke so she'll be less curious about drugs and know how to handle it safely if she ever comes across it.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Education AND Supervision.
I can understand letting a 5 yr old handle a gun when coupled with parental supervision. What I can not understand is stupid fucking people breeding kids they are incapable of raising and then also allowing them to do stupid shit.

[Cynical Ninja]

You can understand a five year old handling a gun? That's because you are a fucking gun crazed moron you stupid irresponsible idiot.

[Maggot]

They should be able to write or spell "gun" first. Unlike some parents.

[HairOfTheDog]

In the wake of thwarted attempts at greater Federal regulation, lots of news related to new state laws.

In MS's neck of the woods, some small steps, but not nearly what advocates for much stricter gun control had hoped.

Snipped:
MINNEAPOLIS — When Minnesota legislators passed the Public Safety Finance Bill during this year's session, they included measures to shore up the state's criminal background check system and to fund school-safety programs.

However, the legislation falls far short of the kind of measures gun control advocates wanted to see passed -- most notably, expanded background checks for gun sales.

Still, proponents of the bill applaud it, noting several measures designed to prevent keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. For example, the law shortens the amount of time law enforcement and courts have to submit data on felons or other people ineligible to possess firearms to the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

Police chiefs and county sheriffs across the state use such information when they consider applications for permits to purchase or to carry firearms.

Hennepin County Sheriff Rich Stanek said the centerpiece of the legislation is a measure requiring the state courts system to add the names of people authorities have indefinitely detained, or civilly committed, for mental illness. The law would update 20 years of records, to when the federal government created the background check system.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display...und-checks

[HairOfTheDog]

Jesus. Another one.

Why the hell are adults leaving loaded weapons laying around with toddlers any where in the house? I don't even think this has as much to do with gun control as it does with moron control sometimes. Was the gun on the coffee table near a samurai sword, an open bottle of Drano, and a Barney and Friends video? Wouldn't be surprised.

PRESCOTT VALLEY, Ariz. -- Authorities in northern Arizona say a 4-year-old boy has accidentally shot and killed his father at a Prescott Valley home.

Prescott Valley police say the shooting occurred just after noon Friday.

The 35-year-old man and his young son were visiting from Phoenix and were at a friend's house.

Police say the boy somehow found a gun in the home's living room and accidentally fired it and a bullet hit his father, who was rushed to a hospital where he died. Police identified the man as Justin Stanfield Thomas.



Police say the boy is with his mother. No other details have been released.

[Cynical Ninja]

As long as you treat guns as normal everyday objects instead of deadly weapons then incidents like the one above will continue to happen.

“You're not gonna leave that lying there are you?”
“What? Its JUST a gun! Guns don't kill people people kill people”

Yeah like your four year old son sucker.

[Duchess]

I read about this a day or two ago & according to the story this was a "drop in" visit, it wasn't planned, that had it been the homeowner would have made sure the weapon/s were secured. Please don't shoot the messenger, I know it doesn't negate the fact the little boy shot his Dad dead. It's a senseless tragedy.

[HairOfTheDog]

I read about this a day or two ago & according to the story this was a "drop in" visit, it wasn't planned, that had it been the homeowner would have made sure the weapon/s were secured. Please don't shoot the messenger, I know it doesn't negate the fact the little boy shot his Dad dead. It's a senseless tragedy.

No shooting the messenger.

I still don't get it. It's your home. You've got a loaded gun in the reach of a 4 year old who's dropped in with your buddy.

So, what do you do? As a responsible gun owner, do you consider who has access at all times and immediately move the loaded weapon? Nope, not in this case. Do you instead make sure the toddler is not left unsupervised? Nope, not in this case.

The "where" is irrelevant to me. Morons - whether a four year old gets a hold of a loaded gun in his own home, at a planned visit to dad's friend's house, or while dropping in on dad's buddy unexpectedly. The kid could have just as easily killed himself.

[username]

The father was an Iraq war veteran. Special forces.

[Cynical Ninja]

He was probably using the gun as a fucking paperweight.

I can't think of any 4 year old boy who wouldn't think “woah!“ On seeing a real life size gun up close and personal.

You keep your pills and medicines in a cabinet out of reach of children at all times same thing should be done with your guns.

NO EXCUSES, NO DEBATE.