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Duchess from what I've been able to gather so far a lot of the boys were orphans or run aways , so the school just buried them in unmarked graves.The boys that had family who were murdered were buried and the explanation given was pneumonia or other natural causes etc.
A man named Roger Dean Kiser, who was there between the ages if 12 and 15 wrote a book about it called The White House Boys:An American Tragedy.The White House Boys us a group he formed along with other former Dozier classmates.The group pushed to have the bodies exhumed and have the deaths investigated.
Link to the interview with Kiser:
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/08/21/di...ys-florida
Snip of the interview:
Of the many employees the now grown students accuse of torturing and killing boys, only one is alive. A class action suit was brought against Troy Tidwell, but a court found the statute of limitations had run out. That suit was thrown out. And after that an attempt was made to pass a bill in the Florida legislature giving compensation to the victims and their families, but that proposal never made it to a vote.
Another snip of the interview:
YOUNG: Well, and pushed to have Dozier looked at. The state finally agreed to send investigators in. The press found out about these unmarked graves that were on the campus, and the ball starts rolling to where we are today. Investigators found records indicating how people died, 96 people died, all young people except for two adults, disease, trauma, drowning. Seven young boys died trying to escape. One 16-year-old was shot.
Now we have anthropologists from the University of South Florida going to exhume the bodies. What do you hope that they find?
KISER: Well, I know what they're going to find. They're going to find a heck of a lot more bodies than what they think are up there. They're going to find a couple hundred bodies. They're going to find them in the dump. Some bodies they'll never find.
YOUNG: How validating has this been for you?
KISER: I was before the Senate when they made the vote with the governor, and I suppose I went a little numb when they voted, and I knew that the truth was finally going to come out. But what meant a lot to me was we received - after they voted, we received a standing ovation. The policemen stood up, the military people stood up, everybody stood up and clapped.
And it almost brought me to tears because through the years, we have been called nothing but a bunch of liars, a bunch of former juvenile delinquents who were after nothing but money, to put money in our pocket or to sell books. We were called by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement nothing but a bunch of old soldiers who couldn't get their war stories straight.
So that's what meant a lot to me. That was the vindication I got.
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(09-26-2014, 02:53 PM)IroningBroad Wrote: we have been called nothing but a bunch of liars, a bunch of former juvenile delinquents who were after nothing but money, to put money in our pocket or to sell books. We were called by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement nothing but a bunch of old soldiers who couldn't get their war stories straight.
Incredible what they managed to get accomplished. It sounds like it was a fight every step of the way. It had to have been terribly frustrating. Kudos to them.
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Yes..they have managed to find some sort of justice for those murdered boys.
May they RIP.
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http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/26636159/p...-workplace
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Police: Woman beheaded at Oklahoma workplace
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - A man fired from an Oklahoma food processing plant beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
Moore Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis said police are waiting until Alton Nolen, 30, is conscious to arrest him in Thursday's attack and have asked the FBI to help investigate after co-workers at Vaughan Foods in the south Oklahoma City suburb told authorities that he recently started trying to convert several employees to Islam.
Nolen allegedly stabbed Colleen Hufford, 54, severing her head, Lewis said.
"Yes, she was beheaded," Lewis told The Associated Press before a Friday news conference.
Lewis said Nolen then allegedly stabbed Traci Johnson, 43, a number of times before Mark Vaughan, a reserve sheriff's deputy and the company's chief operating officer, shot him.
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Sounds like a fucking disgruntled psycho idiot killing people and nothing to do with ISIS.
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I wouldn't be so quick to judge...
The police department issued a statement saying, "After conducting interviews with Nolen's co-workers, information was obtained that he recently started trying to convert several employees to the Muslim religion. Due to the manner of death and the initial statements of co-workers and other initial information, the Moore Police Department requested the assistance of the FBI in conducting a background investigation on Nolan."
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Maybe not linked to ISIS, but I'm thinking he was part of radical Islam (or thought he was)? Beheading someone is a making a major statement, there are very few killers who behead their victims. Since it seems that Nolen had no previous interactions with the women he attacked, he was making a statement about something.
Beheading a person takes more time than cutting their throat or stabbing them repeatedly. I looked for data on beheading as method of murder in the US, but couldn't find any stats. However, as a crime junkie I know that I can recall only a double handful of cases where the victim was beheaded. (Even OJ didn't quite behead Nicole and he was truly pissed at her.)
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(09-26-2014, 09:28 PM)Cheyne Wrote: I wouldn't be so quick to judge...
The police department issued a statement saying, "After conducting interviews with Nolen's co-workers, information was obtained that he recently started trying to convert several employees to the Muslim religion. Due to the manner of death and the initial statements of co-workers and other initial information, the Moore Police Department requested the assistance of the FBI in conducting a background investigation on Nolan."
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Maybe not linked to ISIS, but I'm thinking he was part of radical Islam (or thought he was)? Beheading someone is a making a major statement, there are very few killers who behead their victims. Since it seems that Nolen had no previous interactions with the women he attacked, he was making a statement about something.
Beheading a person takes more time than cutting their throat or stabbing them repeatedly. I looked for data on beheading as method of murder in the US, but couldn't find any stats. However, as a crime junkie I know that I can recall only a double handful of cases where the victim was beheaded. (Even OJ didn't quite behead Nicole and he was truly pissed at her.)
It could be.Though this guy was converting to Islam not trying to be a part of ISIS.I think if it had anything to.do with ISIS he would of made it known as they want everyone to know that their actions are linked to their organization, which is why they're videotaping their beheadings.
It could've also been an act of violence influenced by all of the media coverage on ISIS.
But I guess we won't know until they investigate further.
Sad story all around and scary as hell if it is related to ISIS since this happened in Oklahoma which is only a state above me.
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I don't think that guy had ties to ISIS at all. I think he's probably just one more fucked up individual. Damn good thing someone in the workplace was packing a gun. We are seeing that more & more and yet some places still say no guns allowed, like the bad guys are going to abide by the rules.
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I agree Duchess, he is just another home grown fucknut that has decided the way to go is become a muslim and start a jihad in Moore Ok. Thats why the beheading, because its a current fav of the assholes in the sandbox and the news orgs are making such a big deal of it and feeding the assholes.
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Beheading victim, Collen Hufford. RIP.
Suspect Alton Nolen.
As posted upthread, Nolen killed Hufford and attacked another woman at the Vaughan Food Processing center in Moore, Oklahoma just after he was fired. It's a good thing the company CEO had a gun and was able to stop Nolen before he killed others.
Nolen is conscious and has been questioned in the hospital by investigators.
Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis said that Nolen will be charged today with first-degree murder and assault and battery with a deadly weapon and that he may also face federal charges.
Nolen's family is standing by him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...story.html
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Nothing but the death penalty as an outcome is acceptable in this case.
A clear message needs to be sent.
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Well, Oklahoma does have the death penalty, MS.
And, if Nolen is prosecuted in federal court, he'd also be eligible for it there since he committed the murder in the commission of another felony (the assault and battery) -- assuming he's not found mentally incompetent.
Will be interesting to see which court ends up trying him, what charges might be added, and how the family of Colleen Hufford feel about pursuing the death penalty.
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Looks like the prosecutor in Oklahoma agrees with you, MS.
Snip:
Alton Alexander Nolen, 30, was charged Tuesday with first-degree murder and attempted murder in the beheading of a 54-year-old woman last week at his former workplace in Oklahoma and an attack on another woman, said Cleveland County District Attorney Greg Mashburn.
Nolen was also charged with a third felony, assault with a deadly weapon, the prosecutor said. The attempted murder charge is also called assault and battery with a deadly weapon, Mashburn said.
"It is highly likely I will seek the death penalty in this case," Mashburn added.
Nolen, a recent convert to Islam, is accused of carrying out the attacks Thursday at a Vaughan Foods processing plant soon after he learned he'd lost his job there.
Nolen was trying "to get revenge on certain people he felt responsible" for his job loss, Mashburn said. The knife used in the attack came from Nolen's home.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/30/justic...?hpt=us_c2
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The FBI is also investigating -- Nolen was using Arabic phrases during the attack and had a bunch of Islamic rhetoric posted on his Facebook. I take it the FBI is involved to determine whether any terrorism-related charges will be filed.
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Unfortunately now for moderate Muslims, it'll be time to ramp up the profiling again, particularly in the work place and public locations (malls, libraries, etc.)
These animals need to be contained and then exterminated.
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Serial Killer Team in California
These pieces of shit are registered sex offenders who are charged with working together to stalk, rape and kill four women in Orange County, California -- all while supposedly being monitored by court-mandated GPS monitoring devices.
Story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-men-w...d-4-women/
I was surprised and frustrated when that freak David Renz was able to rape a little girl and kill her mother even though he was a sex offender required to wear a GPS tracker. The investigation uncovered that his tracker had given off an alert many many times, but not for long enough for the monitoring company to alert New York police. Thread: http://mockforums.net/showthread.php?tid...e+bracelet
Apparently, the devices malfunction so much that it was company policy to ignore them unless the alert continued for a certain duration. Messed up. Now, I'm wondering if the New York case wasn't an exception, but an example of a systematic problem that really needs to be reviewed nationwide for the sake of public safety.
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Wow..they need to put a fucking transplant in these sickos dicks that will shock the shit out of them if they try to put them in a vagina.
Wtf is going on with these shitty ankle monitors, that these perverts are able to just dissapear off the radar and kill people??
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Quote from the article posted by HotD:
"Parole records show the men had escaped supervision together before. In 2010, Cano cut off his GPS device and fled to Alabama, where he was arrested with Gordon. The two were arrested in Las Vegas two years later after cutting off their ankle bracelets, according to court records and state officials."
So these jackasses cut their GPS devices off previously in 2010 and 2012, then are allowed to be paroled with new devices? Are California judges that stupid? I am no FemiNazi, but I wonder if these guys would be let out with ankle monitors if they were bank robbers? There are times I believe that the US justice system doesn't take sexual crimes seriously.
Repeat sex offenders need to be castrated and/or locked up permanently IMO.
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(10-05-2014, 11:04 PM)Cheyne Wrote: Are California judges that stupid?
Many judges are but they are always so, SO sorry when the people they have cut loose do something atrocious again.
When people show you how they are, believe them. I don't think that's too much to ask.
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Strange murder/suicide case making headlines in Australia
^Indonesian dancer Mayang Prasetyo was reportedly murdered, dismembered and cooked by her Australian chef boyfriend Marcus Volke.
"I smelled something a few days ago, but we've had sewerage problems through the building over the past few weeks, which building managers have been trying to solve," Courtney Thorensen-Reichart, a tenant of the complex, told Brisbane Times. "It smelled like off dog food, so I just thought someone had either been feeding their animal or the dog had made a mess."
On Saturday night, police in Ballarat, Australia responded to a call about a smell of rotting meat in the complex. They found Volke cooking some of Prasetyo's body parts in chemicals on the stove and other of her remains in trash bags. He fled and stabbed himself to death in an industrial bin.
Volke's mother told reporters that there was no indication there was anything wrong with her son. She had not yet met his girlfriend.
Volke met Prasetyo -- a transgender cabaret dancer -- while working as a chef on an international cruise ship.A motive for the killing wasn't immediately clear. Neighbors said the couple was completely normal, and Volke's Facebook page revealed that he was critical of violence against women and animals.
Refs:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensla...0qwme.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/06..._ref=crime
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She took up with that crazy looking motherfucker? Damn
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I'm disappointed to learn we smell like bad dog food.
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