The Crying Game / TRANSGENDER DISCUSSION

[Duchess]

It's already been determined by photos of the crash that Jenner was holding a cigarette, not a phone. The original report was retracted. I don't know if the investigation is complete or not, but he's not been charged with anything.

Anyway, I don't see anybody getting mushy and there's no connection between being involved in a car crash and being transgender.

So MS has got Bruce guilty of killing that woman because he was texting yet there is no evidence to back that up, no charges have been filed, no arrest has been made.

Whatta piece of work you are, MS.

[ramseycat]

MS is a piece of shit. A judgemental POS that texts and flirts with women that aren't his wife.

[Midwest Spy]

It's already been determined by photos of the crash that Jenner was holding a cigarette, not a phone. The original report was retracted. I don't know if the investigation is complete or not, but he's not been charged with anything.

Anyway, I don't see anybody getting mushy and there's no connection between being involved in a car crash and being transgender.

So MS has got Bruce guilty of killing that woman because he was texting yet there is no evidence to back that up, no charges have been filed, no arrest has been made.

Whatta piece of work you are, MS.

So I guess if HotD says he wasn't texting then he wasn't texting.

He still ran into the back of her car and pushed her into oncoming traffic and she's dead because of it.

Was he paying attention? Was he distracted by something else? Probably.

Anyhow, just trying to make its all kept in perspective.

Always at your service, Duchess.

[HairOfTheDog]

So I guess if HotD says he wasn't texting then he wasn't texting.

He still ran into the back of her car and pushed her into oncoming traffic and she's dead because of it.

Was he paying attention? Was he distracted by something else? Probably.

Anyhow, just trying to make its all kept in perspective.

I didn't say he wasn't texting. I said the published photo which prompted speculation that Jenner was holding his phone at the time of the accident actually showed, upon closer inspection, that he was holding a cigarette. That was clarified back in February.

Police have had access to his phone records since then and he hasn't been charged with anything. I don't know the status of the investigation.

You, MS, trying to make sure things are kept in perspective? Hilarious. You need to find yourself some first. Whether or not Jenner has any culpability in that crash is irrelevant to the discussion about his transgenderism.

P.s. Those are some truly brilliant and probing questions you've posed in regards to the accident; I sure hope LAPD has such keen insight. You're really living up to your av there, MS.

[FAHQTOO]

So I guess if HotD says he wasn't texting then he wasn't texting.

He still ran into the back of her car and pushed her into oncoming traffic and she's dead because of it.

Was he paying attention? Was he distracted by something else? Probably.

Anyhow, just trying to make its all kept in perspective.

I didn't say he wasn't texting. I said the published photo which prompted speculation that Jenner was holding his phone at the time of the accident actually showed, upon closer inspection, that he was holding a cigarette. That was clarified back in February.

Police have had access to his phone records since then and he hasn't been charged with anything. I don't know the status of the investigation.

You, MS, trying to make sure things are kept in perspective? Hilarious. You need to find yourself some first. Whether or not Jenner has any culpability in that crash is irrelevant to the discussion about his transgenderism.

Those are some truly brilliant and probing questions you've posed in regards to the accident; I sure hope LAPD has such keen insight. You're really living up to your av there, MS.

He sure is on a roll this week...I like it. It keeps me well entertained.

[Maggot]

Maybe Bruce was fixing his lipstick or eyeshadow, a girl/guy has priorities ya know. The traffic be damned.

[Jimbone]

Maybe Bruce was fixing his lipstick or eyeshadow, a girl/guy has priorities ya know. The traffic be damned.

Oooo gah!

[Midwest Spy]

So I guess if HotD says he wasn't texting then he wasn't texting.

He still ran into the back of her car and pushed her into oncoming traffic and she's dead because of it.

Was he paying attention? Was he distracted by something else? Probably.

Anyhow, just trying to make its all kept in perspective.

I didn't say he wasn't texting. I said the published photo which prompted speculation that Jenner was holding his phone at the time of the accident actually showed, upon closer inspection, that he was holding a cigarette. That was clarified back in February.

Police have had access to his phone records since then and he hasn't been charged with anything. I don't know the status of the investigation.

You, MS, trying to make sure things are kept in perspective? Hilarious. You need to find yourself some first. Whether or not Jenner has any culpability in that crash is irrelevant to the discussion about his transgenderism.

Those are some truly brilliant and probing questions you've posed in regards to the accident; I sure hope LAPD has such keen insight. You're really living up to your av there, MS.

He sure is on a roll this week...I like it. It keeps me well entertained.

I've watched a ton of Rockford recently, and his hunches are rarely wrong.

I fell like I personally need better writers (if I'm to truly fill Jim's shoes).

However, as FQ2 will agree, better to be an interesting idiot than a boring know-it-all.

[Jimbone]

I've watched a ton of Rockford recently, and his hunches are rarely wrong.

I fell like I personally need better writers (if I'm to truly fill Jim's shoes).

However, as FQ2 will agree, better to be an interesting idiot than a boring know-it-all.

I've got fond memories of watching that show with my dad (RIP). The answering machine message intro is still classic.

Jim Garner was a heck of a talent.

[HairOfTheDog]

However, as FQ2 will agree, better to be an interesting idiot than a boring know-it-all.

Well, then, you're doing an excellent job hedging your bet by playing both roles, minus the "interesting" part.

[Midwest Spy]

However, as FQ2 will agree, better to be an interesting idiot than a boring know-it-all.

Well, then, you're doing an excellent job hedging your bets by playing both roles.

I wasn't calling you, HotD, a boring know it all.

I was saying that I'm embracing the idiot role.

Better ratings, you know.

[HairOfTheDog]

However, as FQ2 will agree, better to be an interesting idiot than a boring know-it-all.

Well, then, you're doing an excellent job hedging your bets by playing both roles.

I wasn't calling you, HotD, a boring know it all.

I was saying that I'm embracing the idiot role.

Better ratings, you know.

I didn't think you were, I admit that "I don't know" often and freely.

And, I wasn't calling you an "interesting" idiot; I edited my post while you were replying.

We're all clear.

[HairOfTheDog]

Maybe Bruce was fixing his lipstick or eyeshadow, a girl/guy has priorities ya know. The traffic be damned.

Personally, I doubt it.

LAPD has photos leading up to the crash, and a surveillance video of the crash from an MT bus that was on the same road.

I think if there was photo/video/phone record evidence that Jenner was primping or texting, it would have resulted in charges of negligent driving already. I suspect LAPD is trying to determine if there's evidence that Jenner was following too closely. We'll see.

Anyway, whether he's ultimately charged with criminal wrong-doing or not, I won't be surprised if the family of the deceased files a hefty civil suit.

[sally]

Sometimes I think you bitches gang up on MS for no good reason. I said sometimes, the other 95% he actually deserves it.

[HairOfTheDog]

Which bitches?

I almost always respond to anyone who posts about or to me, including MS.

I'm not seeing the gang up; just similar opinions to some of MS's comments.

[sally]

Nope, I'm not buying your shit. I see you bullying MS quite often.

[HairOfTheDog]

Nope, I'm not buying your shit. I see you bullying MS quite often.

I don't think people should have to refrain from posting a similar negative opinion about what any member posts in order to avoid somebody (you, in this case) crying "gang" or "clique".

I don't see MS as anybody's victim in here.

Anyway, one person (me, in this case) can't "gang-up" on anyone and I think your definition of "bullying" is bullshit; I have no problem with you thinking of me as a bully, sally.

[sally]

Get off Bruce Jenner's dick, HotD

I guess I have to point out the bullying. I would think any rational person could see it, but I guess not. MS was called a piece of shit and ganged up on for questioning Bruce's involvement with killing a fucking woman. That to me is more important than his stupid sex change whether it was his fault or not.

[sally]

The guy has no respect. He was involved in a fatal crash that resulted in someone losing their mother, daughter, sister whatever... and he's on TV with Diane fucking Sawyer talking about how he's going to change the world with his sex change. Fuck you.

[HairOfTheDog]

If you seriously believe that me saying that the accident and transgenderism are two different issues equates to bullying, your definition of "bullying" is way different than mine, sally.

As for the rest of your post, I don't know where the hell you're coming from. I didn't call MS a piece of shit for bringing up the accident. I didn't weigh in on which of the two issues is more important. I never gave him any grief for bringing up the accident, and, in fact, have commented on the accident several times myself.

I called MS a dipshit for posting that I said Jenner wasn't texting when I never said that. I think he would have been charged by now if he was (at least charged with texting while driving). But, I don't have access to the investigation so I don't know if there's evidence that he was texting or not and never claimed otherwise. That's what I clarified for MS, mocking him in the process.

If you thought my Rockford mock was too harsh, well, tell you what, sal. I'll keep that in mind and make a point to be kinder and gentler moving forward. I like to speak my mind unfiltered and I still like the mocking part of Mock, but I'm not out to seriously hurt anyone here like you apparently think I've done to MS.