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Ugly, yes . . .
#1
. . . but they will do the job.
I always said if they take away the guns people will just build them.

Homemade guns hit Sydney streets in record numbers

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/...7581151383
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#2
and yet still nobody was killed with one this week..

How many people died via gun violence in the US this week?

Try harder..
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#3
(10-30-2015, 12:56 AM)F.U. Wrote: I always said if they take away the guns people will just build them.

I thought they did take them away.

I'll bet this guy thought he was safe because they were gone, too.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/ns...7580876008

And no sooner they're gone . . . voila!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/ns...1a7105c3b2

Damned slingshots . . .
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#4
You found one guy in the last month, well done. I'm sure there are a few more throughout the year too. But it still doesn't pale in comparison. Try harder..
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#5
(10-30-2015, 02:48 AM)crash Wrote: You found one guy in the last month, well done. I'm sure there are a few more throughout the year too. But it still doesn't pale in comparison. Try harder..

Hey . . . it just happened to be a link in the article FU posted.

Just found it ironic that a boatload of prohibited firearms and a slingshot found their way into OZ.

And that a guy was killed, by a firearm in broad daylight, and the suspect eluded capture.

We are a gun culture . . . like Switzerland.

I refuse to apologize for this heritage and to the callous and selfish actions of thugs and criminals.

Hell . . . our judiciary allows illegal immigrants to possess firearms.

Our US Supreme Court upheld the right of a Negro to own and carry a firearm, publicly, BEFORE Lincoln freed the slaves (unfortunately, the Chicago niggers took this right to the extreme).

We are a gun culture.

I am appalled we have a homicide rate of approximately 5 per 100,000 people (3.2 of the total 5 per 100,000, with firearms). I will not defend or suggest we shouldn't try and reduce it. However, in 1993, the per-capita murder rate with firearms was 6.6, with an estimated 190+ million firearms, in the US.

In 2011, the rate was 3.2, with an estimated 320 million firearms.

More guns . . . lower rates? Odd.

I am less concerned that I will be a victim of gun violence than I am of being a victim due to a distracted driver.

We aren't Brazil . . . or Honduras . . . or Russia . . . where gun ownership per capita is almost nil, compared with the US, and it's damned near impossible to legally own a firearm. So why are their gun homicide rates off the chart?

Until the attack in Newtown, Connecticut, the three worst K– 12 public school massacres in the world all occurred in Europe . . . countries where strict gun control laws were already in place.

The world focuses on the US mass-killings with firearms . . . as if they only happen here. How 'bout our neighbors on the other side of the Atlantic? Here's a few from 2001 to 2010 in countries with strict gun control:

- Zug, Switzerland, September 27, 2001: a man murdered 15 members of a cantonal parliament.

- Tours, France, October 29, 2001: four people were killed and 10 wounded when a French railway worker started killing people at a busy intersection in the city.

- Nanterre, France, March 27, 2002: a man kills eight city councilors after a city council meeting.

- Erfurt, Germany on April 26, 2002: a former student kills 18 at a secondary school.

- Freising, Germany on February 19, 2002: Three people killed and one wounded.

- Turin, Italy on October 15, 2002: Seven people were killed on a hillside overlooking the city.

- Madrid, Spain, October 1, 2006: a man kills two employees and wounds another at a company that he was fired from.

- Emsdetten, Germany, November 20, 2006: a former student murders 11 people at a high school.

- Southern Finland, November 7, 2007: Seven students and the principal were killed at a high school.

- Naples, Italy, September 18, 2008: Seven dead and two seriously wounded in a public meeting hall (not included in totals below because it may possibly have involved the mafia).

- Kauhajoki, Finland, Sept. 23, 2008: 10 people were shot to death at a college.

- Winnenden, Germany, March 11, 2009: a 17-year-old former student killed 15 people, including nine students and three teachers.

- Lyon, France, March 19, 2009: ten people injured after a man opened fire on a nursery school.

- Athens, Greece, April 10, 2009: three people killed and two people injured by a student at a vocational college.

- Rotterdam, Netherlands, April 11, 2009: three people killed and 1 injured at a crowded cafe.

- Vienna, Austria, May 24, 2009: one dead and 16 wounded in an attack on a Sikh Temple.

- Espoo, Finland, Dec. 31, 2009: 4 killed while shopping at a mall on New Year's Eve.

- Cumbria, England, June 2, 2010: 12 people killed by a British taxi driver.

- Dunblane, Scotland in 1996: 16 kindergartners and their teacher were shot.

We are a gun culture . . . most of Europe is not.

Like Europe, we are a nation of laws.

And like Europe . . . we, too, have criminals.

I'm not Avis . . . I don't need to try harder.

An aside: Hope all is well and you consider a "tiny house".
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#6
(10-30-2015, 06:25 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: We are a gun culture . . .

An aside: Hope all is well and you consider a "tiny house".

Yep. Got it..

Yeah, everything is as OK as it gets. It's not a rash decision. It's been like a countdown for a while.

My brother has offered me the granny flat at the back of his place as a drop in centre, but I don't think I'll take it up. I have a few work offers in some interesting places I'm chewing over if the puzzle pieces fall the right way. That'll keep me pretty much busy for six months.
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#7
(10-30-2015, 01:59 AM)crash Wrote: and yet still nobody was killed with one this week..

How many people died via gun violence in the US this week?

Try harder..

Try harder at what? Proving my point that if guns are outlawed they will still find there way into the picture? I wasn't pointing out WHERE this took place. I dont care enough about that region to try and make that point. All I was saying is that they CAN and WILL still be constructed if they get taken away.
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#8
And people still make homemade weapons where guns are legal, you have proven no point.
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#9
Oh for fucks sake. Who gives a rats ass if they are made now or not? By them being made currently it just reinforces my point that they can and will be produced.
Right now , here in the good ol USofA you need no permits or licenses to manufacture firearms for personal use. I can build as many , lets just say AK47's, as I want and no one can say a thing about it. Hell I don't even have to put a ser # on them. And that's a quality type firearm. Now think if there were laws against it. What kind of ghetto bullshit junk ass guns, like the one in my original post, will be made by these half wits that just want something that goes boom?
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#10
Heh.. I'm not sure what you're point is anymore either? First it was ghetto guns are being made somewhere where guns are illegal because guns were illegal, but now it's pointed out to you that ghetto guns are made in countries where guns are legal, all of a sudden you don't give a rats ass about the legal bit or not, just the quality of the gun being made?

Rigghhhht...
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#11
(10-30-2015, 09:32 AM)crash Wrote: Heh.. I'm not sure what you're point is anymore either? First it was ghetto guns are being made somewhere where guns are illegal because guns were illegal, but now it's pointed out to you that ghetto guns are made in countries where guns are legal, all of a sudden you don't give a rats ass about the legal bit or not, just the quality of the gun being made?

Rigghhhht...

No, I did kinda get side tracked there. lol.
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#12
I think my OCD kicked in. I really think that they will. . . Oh look a squirrel.
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#13
Oh for fucks sake. Who gives a rats ass if they are made now or not? By them being made currently it just reinforces my point that they can and will be produced.

That is where I should have stopped. That was before the squirrel caught my eye. Hahahahahaha.
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#14
(10-30-2015, 09:45 AM)F.U. Wrote: Oh for fucks sake. Who gives a rats ass if they are made now or not? By them being made currently it just reinforces my point that they can and will be produced.

Right. So it won't matter if there are gun reforms to at least prevent the crimes of opportunity. Thanks for clearing that up.
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#15
You know what else you have in the states that you can't get here?

A goddamned good Rueben sandwich. I've been itching for a decent Rueben for a week and fucked if I can find one anywhere.

I want a Rueben!
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#16
What it will do is increase the number of these {junk guns} on the streets. The headline of that original piece should tell you that. Deadly D.I.Y: Homemade guns hit Sydney streets in record numbers.
More junk guns will = more crimes.
It also admits that . . . “Good criminals have the connections to get existing guns but on the lower end, those guns aren’t available so they move to the next thing. We’re seeing it as a growing trend.
So outlawing guns still allows "good criminals" access to good firearms and young dumb criminals just build junk guns.
These junk guns may not be being used in many crimes currently, but you can bet your little kangaroo lovin ass that with a increase of their exsistance, there will also come a increase in their use.
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#17
(10-30-2015, 10:00 AM)crash Wrote: You know what else you have in the states that you can't get here?

A goddamned good Rueben sandwich. I've been itching for a decent Rueben for a week and fucked if I can find one anywhere.

I want a Rueben!

Ya missed it. Rubens were our special at the bar just a couple weeks ago.
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#18
Do you watch Fox News?
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#19
(10-30-2015, 10:05 AM)crash Wrote: Do you watch Fox News?

No I don't watch the news in general. I don't like how every "news agency" seams to slant stories to fit their beliefs. occasionally I do see a local news cast while I am at the bar, but that is just to watch weather and sports. I haven't had cable/dish/direct tv at my houses in almost 15 years now.
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#20
The daily telegraph is the Australian newspaper equivalent of Fox News. Sensationalistic journalism to sell papers at best.

Ask Loosey Loo..
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