Presidential race 2016

[HairOfTheDog]

I saw that FAHQTOO. The kid was pretty direct. I liked that he got to ask her that question.

She did dance around a lot before winding it up with her contention that some people, especially young people, only think that because she's always the target of malicious detractors, essentially.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what the FBI investigation of potential security breaches will reveal.

[blueberryhill]

I caught most of the Democratic Town Hall last night.

It wasn't really a debate, in that the three candidates weren't on stage together. But, they were asked some similar questions and asked to address their competitors' views and criticisms. I liked the audience questions. I also liked that the fact-check on the candidates' key points came back "True".

My view is that if you want the person with the most executive level experience who is pretty aggressive on foreign relations, but moderate to liberal on social and economic policies, Hillary is the pick. She's more aggressive on Syria, gun control, and such than Obama, but would build or expand on a lot of his policies, including affordable health care.

If you want someone who is truly committed to changing the system and giving more power, opportunity and voice back to the middle and lower income classes and disenfranchised (without fear of reaming the super rich control mongers), Bernie is the man. He's not got executive level experience like Hillary, but he has a hell of a lot of political experience having been a mayor for over a decade, a Congressperson for 20 years, a Senator for 10 years, and serving on congressional budget and veteran's affairs committees -- all as an Independent, without catering to either party.

I think Bernie's much more experience-qualified than any Republican candidate still left in the race, except Kasich. And, he is sincerely committed to major systematic and social reform. And I think Maggot's right that Bernie's attractiveness to voters will depend more on his vice presidential choice than it will for some candidates though. Bernie seems very sharp and spry to me, and not much older than Trump and Hillary. But, to really accomplish some of his key reform goals, he's gonna need more than one term and his VP will need to be able to work bi-partisan and have a stellar ability to influence. In my opinion.

I guess you caught the part where the young man asked her about her dishonesty and she babbled on and on about how great it is that the youngsters are getting involved.
No answer for her dishonesty though.
At least she skirted around it instead of lieing about being a liar.
The woman is a complete sociopath.

Dang, I was so busy drinking my wine, I forgot to watch this....when you say some kid asked her about her dishonesty, i am not sure what you are referring to....there is not a candidate running for President who hasn't been dishonest......and I bet you have, too....Did you ever tell your kids that there was a Santa Claus......for shame......

I would like to know your qualifications for calling "her" (guess you are referring to Hillary) a sociopath. How many do you know or have you diagnosed? I would have to sign off on Donald Trump being the sociopath here......and yes, I do have qualifications.....I don't think you are supposed to label someone a sociopath just because you don't like her/him..

You act like Hillary is the only politician in history who ever told a lie (again I didn't watch this, so don't know what lie you are talking about),
Let's hang her at dawn for this crime.....and have a kid ask every candidate about a lie they have told...jeez.....Again, let's make a mountain out of a molehill. I am voting for her....and I am willing to bet that she wins....Go Hillary!!!!!!

[FAHQTOO]

I caught most of the Democratic Town Hall last night.

It wasn't really a debate, in that the three candidates weren't on stage together. But, they were asked some similar questions and asked to address their competitors' views and criticisms. I liked the audience questions. I also liked that the fact-check on the candidates' key points came back "True".

My view is that if you want the person with the most executive level experience who is pretty aggressive on foreign relations, but moderate to liberal on social and economic policies, Hillary is the pick. She's more aggressive on Syria, gun control, and such than Obama, but would build or expand on a lot of his policies, including affordable health care.

If you want someone who is truly committed to changing the system and giving more power, opportunity and voice back to the middle and lower income classes and disenfranchised (without fear of reaming the super rich control mongers), Bernie is the man. He's not got executive level experience like Hillary, but he has a hell of a lot of political experience having been a mayor for over a decade, a Congressperson for 20 years, a Senator for 10 years, and serving on congressional budget and veteran's affairs committees -- all as an Independent, without catering to either party.

I think Bernie's much more experience-qualified than any Republican candidate still left in the race, except Kasich. And, he is sincerely committed to major systematic and social reform. And I think Maggot's right that Bernie's attractiveness to voters will depend more on his vice presidential choice than it will for some candidates though. Bernie seems very sharp and spry to me, and not much older than Trump and Hillary. But, to really accomplish some of his key reform goals, he's gonna need more than one term and his VP will need to be able to work bi-partisan and have a stellar ability to influence. In my opinion.

I guess you caught the part where the young man asked her about her dishonesty and she babbled on and on about how great it is that the youngsters are getting involved.
No answer for her dishonesty though.
At least she skirted around it instead of lieing about being a liar.
The woman is a complete sociopath.

Dang, I was so busy drinking my wine, I forgot to watch this....when you say some kid asked her about her dishonesty, i am not sure what you are referring to....there is not a candidate running for President who hasn't been dishonest......and I bet you have, too....Did you ever tell your kids that there was a Santa Claus......for shame......

I would like to know your qualifications for calling "her" (guess you are referring to Hillary) a sociopath. How many do you know or have you diagnosed? I would have to sign off on Donald Trump being the sociopath here......and yes, I do have qualifications.....I don't think you are supposed to label someone a sociopath just because you don't like her/him..

You act like Hillary is the only politician in history who ever told a lie (again I didn't watch this, so don't know what lie you are talking about),
Let's hang her at dawn for this crime.....and have a kid ask every candidate about a lie they have told...jeez.....Again, let's make a mountain out of a molehill. I am voting for her....and I am willing to bet that she wins....Go Hillary!!!!!!

I certainly hope when I get your age, I don't babble on and on about how everyone is wrong but me. Go eat your oatmeal and prunes.

[aussiefriend]

Someone really needs to teach that bitch how to quote and some respect while they are at it. There must be some Mock "quote for dummies" classes that she is able to take. She needs some serious intervention.

I'll go even further and suggest that she be barred from this thread and any thread involving robust political debate. She cannot participate and doesn't realise that you live in a free country where it's a person is allowed to support a politcal party that is different to something that others oppose.

[FAHQTOO]

Someone really needs to teach that bitch how to quote and some respect while they are at it. There must be some Mock "quote for dummies" classes that she is able to take. She needs some serious intervention.

I'll go even further and suggest that she be barred from this thread and any thread involving robust political debate. She cannot participate and doesn't realise that you live in a free country where it's a person is allowed to support a politcal party that is different to something that others oppose.

Hahaha...don't you have an imaginary lover to stalk somewhere, crazy bitch.

[Blindgreed1]

I caught most of the Democratic Town Hall last night.

It wasn't really a debate, in that the three candidates weren't on stage together. But, they were asked some similar questions and asked to address their competitors' views and criticisms. I liked the audience questions. I also liked that the fact-check on the candidates' key points came back "True".

My view is that if you want the person with the most executive level experience who is pretty aggressive on foreign relations, but moderate to liberal on social and economic policies, Hillary is the pick. She's more aggressive on Syria, gun control, and such than Obama, but would build or expand on a lot of his policies, including affordable health care.

If you want someone who is truly committed to changing the system and giving more power, opportunity and voice back to the middle and lower income classes and disenfranchised (without fear of reaming the super rich control mongers), Bernie is the man. He's not got executive level experience like Hillary, but he has a hell of a lot of political experience having been a mayor for over a decade, a Congressperson for 20 years, a Senator for 10 years, and serving on congressional budget and veteran's affairs committees -- all as an Independent, without catering to either party.

I think Bernie's much more experience-qualified than any Republican candidate still left in the race, except Kasich. And, he is sincerely committed to major systematic and social reform. And I think Maggot's right that Bernie's attractiveness to voters will depend more on his vice presidential choice than it will for some candidates though. Bernie seems very sharp and spry to me, and not much older than Trump and Hillary. But, to really accomplish some of his key reform goals, he's gonna need more than one term and his VP will need to be able to work bi-partisan and have a stellar ability to influence. In my opinion.

I guess you caught the part where the young man asked her about her dishonesty and she babbled on and on about how great it is that the youngsters are getting involved.
No answer for her dishonesty though.
At least she skirted around it instead of lieing about being a liar.
The woman is a complete sociopath.

Dang, I was so busy drinking my wine, I forgot to watch this....when you say some kid asked her about her dishonesty, i am not sure what you are referring to....there is not a candidate running for President who hasn't been dishonest......and I bet you have, too....Did you ever tell your kids that there was a Santa Claus......for shame......

I would like to know your qualifications for calling "her" (guess you are referring to Hillary) a sociopath. How many do you know or have you diagnosed? I would have to sign off on Donald Trump being the sociopath here......and yes, I do have qualifications.....I don't think you are supposed to label someone a sociopath just because you don't like her/him..

You act like Hillary is the only politician in history who ever told a lie (again I didn't watch this, so don't know what lie you are talking about),
Let's hang her at dawn for this crime.....and have a kid ask every candidate about a lie they have told...jeez.....Again, let's make a mountain out of a molehill. I am voting for her....and I am willing to bet that she wins....Go Hillary!!!!!!

*golf clap*

[Cutz]

I'd rather vote for Sarah Palin than Hillary.

Unfortunately, I'd rather vote for a crazy, homeless man than Trump.

[Blindgreed1]

I'd rather vote for Sarah Palin than Hillary.

Unfortunately, I'd rather vote for a crazy, homeless man than Trump.

Usually one ends up voting for the lesser of two evils. That option isn't available this election year.

[Maggot]

Sometimes I vote just to cancel out someone else's vote. It makes me feel better than when I vote for the best worst person.

[Blindgreed1]

Sometimes I vote just to cancel out someone else's vote. It makes me feel better than when I vote for the best worst person.

That actually works in the primary.

[HairOfTheDog]

Donald Trump dropping out of the next Republican debate because FOX refused to remove the scheduled moderator, Megyn Kelly, from the event is really moronic. So moronic that I've learned to expect that it will help rather than hurt him with his followers.

Trump, in my view, is a really good sucker master and sales person. He's got a very committed following who won't desert him no matter how childish, vague, and false his words and actions; they don't care to even look ahead and envision how such tactics would affect the country if the man was elected President.

The worst of Trump's characteristics, to me, is that he's a cry baby. Braggart, okay. Liar, well -- he's a politician now. Fear monger, pretty fucked up, but he ain't alone. Add cry baby on top of all that and he's just pitiful. I'd actually vote for Cruz over Trump at this point (not Carson though, he's still worse than Trump to me).

Even if you have a low opinion of the media, no one should want to see a President who tries to control it. We don't have state run media here, very thankfully.

Here's FOX's statement following Trump's pussy announcement:
"As many of our viewers know, Fox News is hosting a sanctioned debate in Des Moines, Iowa on Thursday night, three days before the first votes of the 2016 election are cast in the Iowa Caucus. Donald Trump is refusing to debate seven of his fellow presidential candidates on stage that night, which is near unprecedented. We're not sure how Iowans are going to feel about him walking away from them at the last minute, but it should be clear to the American public by now that this is rooted in one thing – Megyn Kelly, whom he has viciously attacked since August and has now spent four days demanding be removed from the debate stage. Capitulating to politicians' ultimatums about a debate moderator violates all journalistic standards, as do threats, including the one leveled by Trump's campaign manager Corey Lewandowski toward Megyn Kelly. In a call on Saturday with a Fox News executive, Lewandowski stated that Megyn had a 'rough couple of days after that last debate' and he 'would hate to have her go through that again.' Lewandowski was warned not to level any more threats, but he continued to do so. We can't give in to terrorizations toward any of our employees. Trump is still welcome at Thursday night's debate and will be treated fairly, just as he has been during his 132 appearances on Fox News & Fox Business, but he can't dictate the moderators or the questions."

[Maggot]

I wonder how many Dems will come out on the side of FOX because of this. Probably as many on the Pubs side. I wonder who would win Trump or Bernie. Hillary is on the ropes and Cruz, Bush and Rubio is barely treading water. This will be fun to watch at any rate and we will get what we deserve in the end. The advertisers will probably strong arm FOX in the long run and Kelly will not moderate. It will always be about the money in the end.

[Duchess]

He can't handle a fricken news person yet he wants to be the leader of the country. He's a fuckin' tool.

I don't want to be surprised by this but I am often shocked by the number of people who support him. They don't care what he bleats about, they don't care how he conducts himself, they don't care about one damn thing where he is concerned. He's a beloved sheep herder.

[Maggot]

That has a familiar ring to it.

[Blindgreed1]

That has a familiar ring to it.

was just thinking the same thing.

[Duchess]

[Maggot]

Duchess is so cool that there's was an entire continent to contain her coolness.

[Duchess]

I'll always put up with more from those I love.

[HairOfTheDog]

GOP Candidates Respond to Trump Debate Drop-out

Trump recently made a statement that nobody likes Ted Cruz and said that Cruz acts like a jerk. I don't believe Trump called Cruz a poo-poo head though. So, after Trump announced he won't attend the FOX debate, Cruz likened him to sir Robin and tweeted this Monty Python video clip.


Chris Christie called Trump's decision a mistake which should make the voters of Iowa consider how Trump regards them. And, he said, "more time for the rest of us."

Meanwhile, Rand Paul, whose poll numbers have climbed enough to put him on the prime time debate stage again, had this to say:'Thank goodness Donald Trump and his super huge ego, he's taken his ball and he's going home, and that's all the better for the country, really, as far as I'm concerned. The IQ of the debate went up a couple dozen points, I would say.'

The GOP debate will be held on Thursday night, 9pm ET.

[Duchess]

Ha! Great response by them all. *applauds*

Don't go away mad, Donald, just go away.