THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

[Maggot]

I bet Betsy Devos gets the job today or by the end of the day wed.

[aussiefriend]

If Trump was caught commiting an atrocity and it was on camera, there are still people in this forum that would justify the act and make excuses for him. Dumbfucks.

probably, bill clinton could ass rape an 8 yr old Iranian refugee and there would be people ok with that.

Extremists come in all sizes, shapes and colors

that's not true, in both instances whether that was Trump or Clinton, it is appalling act and no one would support that.

I did notice that your new President praised Putin and criticized your country as not being innocent alluding to the fact that you are a bunch of killers. If you are fine with a leader like that, fine.

[Duchess]

I bet Betsy Devos gets the job today or by the end of the day wed.

Does the Professor share your exuberance? If not, there could be an ASBU in your future.

[Maggot]

She believes in charter schools, the wave of the future.

[sally]

I did notice that your new President praised Putin and criticized your country as not being innocent alluding to the fact that you are a bunch of killers. If you are fine with a leader like that, fine.

He didn't praise him. He said that he respects him as the ruler of another country and his fight against ISIS. Our country is not innocent, there is plenty of blood on our hands. I don't think stating that is a comparison to Russia or giving them a pass. We're not Russia, everyone knows that. It was a statement that it's in our best interest to try to remain peaceful with them even if we don't agree, and not everyone agrees with the things we've done either.

Drive yourself crazy analyzing every goddamn word he says though.

[Maggot]

I did notice that your new President praised Putin and criticized your country as not being innocent alluding to the fact that you are a bunch of killers. If you are fine with a leader like that, fine.

It does not. And it does not allude to the United States citizens as a bunch of killers. It is a true statement. America has gone into Iraq, Afghanistan, and quite a few other shady endeavors. Realistically we have done some rather bad deals. But it doesn't mean what you perceive, that is flawed thinking chuckles.

[Maggot]

I tell you what, America is better in bed with Russia and China than Iran. Iran cares squat for the atrocities of ISIS or their own madness which is far worse than the rest of the world.

[sally]

First you call the guy a liar and then when he's honest you call him a scumbag who's teaming up with Russia to take over the world. Retards.

[Maggot]

The bandwagon is like drugs, hard to get off once on it.

[HairOfTheDog]

Our country is not innocent, there is plenty of blood on our hands. I don't think stating that is a comparison to Russia or giving them a pass. We're not Russia, everyone knows that. It was a statement that it's in our best interest to try to remain peaceful with them even if we don't agree, and not everyone agrees with the things we've done either.

Drive yourself crazy analyzing every goddamn word he says though.

I don't drive myself crazy or analyze every word Trump or any other politician says.

But, I do think you've gone a bit off the deep-end at times these days, sal.

It wouldn't matter if Trump or Clinton or Sponge Bob had responded to the question about respecting a Russian killer by bringing up that there are American killers too. That is a 'comparison', which means to note the similarities between two things.

Even if you think the statement is accurate, it's still a 'comparison' and you sound as fucking retarded trying to redefine that simple and neutral word as the people who tried to redefine 'ban' to make a case or argument.

[aussiefriend]

Sally I don't think your President should be the one to point out that your country is not innocent. I find that bizzare. That's the leader of the country undermining the Country.

[blueberryhill]

I just listened to it and agreed with everything he said. He said he respected the man as a leader of another country in the fight with ISIS, but does not know that he agrees with all of his decisions. When asked why would you respect a killer, he said there are plenty of killers here too. Are you arguing with that? What about George Bush, I'm sure he indirectly killed many innocent people.

Many Americans have a problem with the President of the United States equating our country with an authoritarian, murderous regime. Putin kills or jails journalists and political opponents. American presidents and most Americans do not normally respect dictatorships.

Sally, maybe you should research Putin's history of killing....don't think US has reached that status of depravity, but with Trump, anything is possible. What he said was totally unacceptable. So far we don't poison our political dissenters, or kill other members of our Gov't when they try having a voice....they invade and kill millions of civilian citizens in their aggressive moves to take over more and more land and power...Most people (even Republicans) took offense that a POTUS could compare us to Russia....get a grip......If you want a dictatorship, i could suggest places other than US and i resent when a nut job comes into WH and acts like an "out of control" dictator man child having daily temper tantrums......No, you didn't specifically mention some of these words, but your overall comments imply acceptance of Trump saying US is just as bad as Russia when it comes to killing....If you don't see Trump as dangerous, then, I think you and similar attitudes are the problem just as much as Trump is a problem to people who want a sane President at the helm.....

Blueberry, you are dumber than a suitcase of buttholes. How the fuck am I a problem? All I said was I don't feel what he said equates to comparing the US to Russia. You believe it does, however, so whatever you say goes. When the world comes to an end you can rub my face in it, Ok? Happy, you crazy fuck?

"dumber than a suitcase of buttholes" you should know about assholes......
U are a dummkopf.......I will write more when I feel better....

You and a few more on this forum remind me of OJ's jury...they all ignored facts, too....they dismissed DNA, etc and found him not guilty....As Bill Maher would say, you live in a fact free bubble. It must be nice to not see beyond your own dumb perception of something which comes out of mouth of a known liar and company. I expect any day, you will be singing praises of Kellyanne and her alternative facts....

You and a few other people here on Mock predictably come together when someone suggests that your comment doesn't make sense, so you must be dense.

IF WE had a dumbfuck or demented/crqzy fuck of the month, you would get the award for this month....and you won't own any of your stuff, only deny, deny..

[sally]

Our country is not innocent, there is plenty of blood on our hands. I don't think stating that is a comparison to Russia or giving them a pass. We're not Russia, everyone knows that. It was a statement that it's in our best interest to try to remain peaceful with them even if we don't agree, and not everyone agrees with the things we've done either.

Drive yourself crazy analyzing every goddamn word he says though.

I don't drive myself crazy or analyze every word Trump or any other politician says.

But, I do think you've gone a bit off the deep-end at times these days, sal.

It wouldn't matter if Trump or Clinton or Sponge Bob had responded to the question about respecting a Russian killer by bringing up that there are American killers too. That is a 'comparison', which means to note the similarities between two things.

Even if you think the statement is accurate, it's still a 'comparison' and you sound as fucking retarded trying to redefine that simple and neutral word as the people who tried to redefine 'ban' to make a case or argument.

I wasn't even talking to you, I was addressing BB and Aussie's comments that what he said somehow equated to him being an evil, dangerous dictator in standing with Russia. I did not get that at all from what he said.

But all you care about is nitpicking my use of the word 'compare'. It would be like if you said you gained 30 lbs and I said I gained 5 and it sucks, but we have to deal with it anyway. That doesn't mean I'm putting myself on par with you. But I guess by definition that would be comparing. I'm sorry I used the word incorrectly, Jesus Christ.

[HairOfTheDog]

I wasn't even talking to you, I was addressing BB and Aussie's comments that what he said somehow equated to him being an evil, dangerous dictator in standing with Russia. I did not get that at all from what he said.

But all you care about is nitpicking my use of the word 'compare'. It would be like if you said you gained 30 lbs and I said I gained 5 and it sucks, but we have to deal with it anyway. That doesn't mean I'm putting myself on par with you. But I guess by definition that would be comparing. I'm sorry I used the word incorrectly, Jesus Christ.

Yeah, like you never butt your fat ass in when I'm not talking to you. Who cares?

And, you keep repeating how you don't see any comparison in the statement; it's one of your focal points in this discussion. It's not nitpicking to address what you keep repeating, which is reflective of you either being ignorant or full of shit on this point.

People are saying that Trump compared the U.S. to Russia when it comes to governmental/leadership killing because that's exactly what he did, sally.

Instead of you nitpicking at people for calling a comparison a comparison and having a different opinion about that comparison, you could just say you didn't consider the comparison a big deal and you agreed with Trump's statement.

But, where's the fun in that?

[sally]

Sally I don't think your President should be the one to point out that your country is not innocent. I find that bizzare. That's the leader of the country undermining the Country.

I recall Obama talking about Muslims and pointing out that Christians have plenty of blood on their hands too. Plenty of people were outraged, but I agreed.

This time I really am making a comparison, HotD.

The comparison to the words that both Trump and Obama spoke that is, not the comparison to muslims and Christians. That's apples and oranges, much like the US and Russia. But in the end the same result as far as innocent people being killed. That's what Trump meant, but go on hating him. The general you, not you, HotD.

[Midwest Spy]

I bet if BBH and Aussie met, they'd hit it off.

So well that neither one would be able to get a word in edgewise and they'd actually end up trying to kill each other.

I also didn't know that HotD was familiar with SpongeBob.

I want her even more now, if that's possible.

[HairOfTheDog]

I recall Obama talking about Muslims and pointing out that Christians have plenty of blood on their hands too. Plenty of people were outraged, but I agreed.

This time I really am making a comparison, HotD.

Good job, sal. The fact that you now know a comparison when it's right in front of your face AND you're not afraid to say it out loud....is good progress. You've come a long way, baby.

You did indeed make a comparison between Obama and Trump, and Obama made a comparison between Muslims and Christians, and Trump made a comparison between Russia and the U.S., and so on........

I thought I was gonna have to lobby for a new School House Rock about comparisons, but seems my work is already done.

ETA: just saw your edit, WitchiePoo. Back to the lobby draft, you're still daft.

[sally]

I also didn't know that HotD was familiar with SpongeBob.

Yeah, because no one has ever heard of him but you. Especially HotD who lives under a rock far away from Bikini Bottom.

Fucking retard.

[HairOfTheDog]

I expect any day, you will be singing praises of Kellyanne and her alternative facts....

Kellyanne Conway is something else.

Obviously.......it's not crying, or band-wagoning, or nitpicking to acknowledge that the words spoken publicly by the U.S. President (and other public leaders and representatives) matter when it comes to key issues, like foreign relations, crime, human and civil rights... Not every word/statement is a big deal, but some undoubtedly are a big deal.

Trump, Conway, and some of their devotees love to try to shame people who don't just swallow their 'alternative facts', otherwise known as lies and misinformation, by doubling down on the bullshit and insisting the truth-tellers are "HATERS!"

Case in point: Today, Trump once again repeated one of his favorite 'alternative facts' to justify some of his controversial proposals which restrict or infringe upon innocent people's rights.

He said that the murder rate in the United States is the highest it's been in 47 years. That was some major bullshit when he first said it and it's still some major bullshit.

The murder rate was the lowest since 1980 in 2014. It grew slightly in 2015, but 2015 was still much lower than 47 years ago. 2015 is the year in question; the year the latest stats are available. No matter how many times the fact is presented and the lie debunked, some blockheads believe and defend the lie because President Trump said it.

[HairOfTheDog]

So...today, Jake Tapper questioned Kellyanne Conway about the false and fear-mongering rhetoric. She actually said this: “When he (Trump) talks about the 47 years and the rate, I’m handed the information, I think you referred to it as well, that we have had an increase from 2014 to 2015.”

I think even Maggot would probably admit that "the highest in 47 years" does not mean "the highest in 2 years and one of the lowest in 47 years."

Anyway, Tapper wasn't having it this time. He told her, “(President Trump) said it’s the highest murder rate in 47 years and the media doesn’t report it. And, again, Kellyanne, the media doesn’t report it because it’s a lie, because it’s not true.”

That she peddled such crap today, so soon after referring to a massacre in the United States that never happened (in order to defend Trump's travel ban)....... is truly catering to the lowest common denominator.

I hope she regroups and can earn back some credibility if she's going to continue on the job. She'd referred to the fictitious Bowling Green Massacre two other times (Cosmo, TMZ) before getting busted out on the lie last week. It's a pattern across issues. I don't think credible media/people are going to let her go unchecked any longer, nor should they.

Ref: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-check-t...rder-rate/