01-21-2011, 05:41 AM
(01-05-2011, 02:48 PM)southerndrawal72 Wrote: It seems that Aussiefriend is always disagreeing with American law, however, we too have rules about what doctors can and can't do, that is why the IVF doctor in this situation is facing the possibility of losing his license. As for the Austrailian law that does not allow adoption or IVF for single people, that is just outright stupid. I'm single and have chosen not to have children. However, if I wanted one or more, I sure as hell could afford to raise them. It seems very asinine to pay for everyone to get on the country dime that keeps having children at the cost of the tax payer but disallow people who can afford to adopt or receive IVF to have children. Does anyone see this as stupid besides me? As for Octomom, as well as every other irresponsible parent that keeps having children, our country should pass laws that allow you to have a child, but if you can't afford that childt you are spayed or neutered to keep you from breeding further. No questions asked. All those on the state/federal dime know that you get a check per child and they refuse to go to work. I know this, I work with this crap every day. Our system rewards the lazy and punishes/taxes the workers. Rent the movie Idiocracy...it is prophetic.
nah nah nah! I dont like the fact she had 8 children when she already had a million at home. That was plain stupidity and irresponsibilty. But the doctor did the procedure kind of like when the doctors messed up MJs face. OK so he was wacko jacko but when you are a health professional there are certain standards that have to adhered to, that is the same here as in the US. I love some of the aspects of US law like for criminals. Over here, this guy drowned his 3 children in a car in a dam and got 33 years, thats 11 years per child. Because he had a grudge against the ex wife. At least in the US they punish properly. We also don't have a sex offender register because of privacy laws.
But I regarding the octomom I am coming more from a more academic point of view that I learnt in sociology. The children are there now and have to be fed, she can't manage, this should have been stopped before it even started, the kids are here now so you guys have no choice but the American taxpayer has to pay that is the reality. Otherwise the kids would starve. Personally I think the Octomom might have some mental health issues but I am not qualified to assess her.
Don't worry we have people here who abuse the system too. I don't think she was really thinking when she got those embryos implanted. I mean, I can say as a parent, I have one child, its exhausting, expensive and messy. I wouldnt dream of two at once let alone bloody eight.
So don't misunderstand me, health professionals have obligations to the statutory government bodies and to the society which they serve to be responsible in their area of practice. However, kids are expensive and they cost money. The IVF laws/adoption laws here are ridiculous compared to US. But just like the US even every state here has differing laws. We have some sick mongrels here that deserve the death penalty but we dont have it in oz.
When I would watch forensic files or body of evidence on crime and investigation channel at least in the end of those shows you would see they would get the death penalty or LIFE not 20 years out in 10. However, I did have to turn off that channel, off my subscription because it scared me, watching all those true stories and what people do to one another frightened the crap out of me.
cheers big ears