Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[HeartBreaker]

zero... that thought has crossed my mind a few times. i know that the uncle reported that there was not a safe in the house and he is seemingly a reliable source. the only reason i can think for him to announce there wasn't a safe if there really was is maybe to get someone to open their big mouth... you know
"naw man... those bytches be lian. we busted the shyt out that safe."

i don't know... i guess always a possibility... maybe far fetched though.

p.s. how was my first attempt at ghetto talk?

yo!! Justsayin..
u got da talk down..lol....

Here is that video where Maytee explains with her hands the way the tape was on her son and the remnants left in a bag near the body. Can you give me an opinion why there are no tears streaming down from her eyes. I have lost someone dear to me and the last thing I could hide were my tears.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7938127

That was the video that a few of us found rather unsettling. There are no tears. She seems distraught but no tears. Really strange. And at the end she says, "There is no apologizing for what you have done to my son." That's the understatement of the century. Apologizing??? Does anyone find that a super weird choice of words?

Regarding the bags: Anyone violently attacks and duct tapes two people up and puts plastic bags over their heads, THEY MEAN TO KILL, PERIOD. To even entertain any other idea is not right, to put it mildly. Whoever did this is/are psychopaths. I still stand by premeditated murder, too. This was not an afterthought.

storm... i am completely with you. while i don't see this as being a professional hit (just doesn't seem "clean" enough) i just can't seem to convince myself that this was never meant to be a killing. the way in which they were killed is just too horrific. i think robbery was certainly a part of the night but i think murder was in the cards all along.

if they had entered into an altercation with johnny and/or lisa and things escalated, it seems they would have been murdered in "the heat of the moment" (out of anger during a physical fight with fists or knives or a gun or blunt object, even strangulation). i don't see someone who doesn't intend to kill someone but does because things get out of control taking the time to search around for duct tape and plastic bags, securing them, placing the bags over their heads, taping them all up, and watching them struggle to live. it just takes too much time and effort to do it, thinking about what you're doing the whole time, rather than letting things get out of control and beating someone to death. of course, this is JMO.

(oh and by the way, storm... thanks for tweaking my ghetto talk... i think it definitely added a little something haha.)