04-28-2011, 03:57 PM
(04-28-2011, 03:06 PM)shitstorm Wrote: You've established your contempt for all things Constitutional, and I accept that. I don't share that POV and when you ask about a right to privacy, I would point out that the Michigan State Police have been d/ling the contents of people's phones.
You're very mistaken. I believe in the Constitution just as everyone else in the discussion here does, and I also believe in the portions of the Constitution which vest the courts with the duty and power to interpret the Constitution, which sometimes means going beyond the original words to find meaning in light of the existing real world. Such as finding a "right of privacy," when no such language exists in the Constitution.
You've gotten yourself entangled in contradictory positions from which you cannot escape by pontification or sarcasm.
You insist on your "right to privacy" which I enthusiastically support and agree exists, but you won't and can't explain how it sprung from the U. S. Constitution so long as you adhere to your theory of "strict construction" of the Constitution, a theory which forbids the very interpretation you reply upon.
You attempt to assert this "right of privacy" against private corporations entering into a contract with private citizens which provides for them to collect data from cell phone use, but you won't and can't explain how this conduct is illegal or a violation of your rights as a private citizen. You attempt to obscure the lack of logic in this position by jumping to the completely separate issue of how and when a governmental authority can obtain that information.
You claim surprise and betrayal about the fact that cell phones record and collect location data when, by definition, a cell phone system divides the service area into "cells" which rely on the location of numerous towers to send, receive and relay packets of data. Perhaps you would be surprised to learn that taxi drivers keep a log of where they pick passengers up and where they drop them off? And that government bodies can follow lawful but rather routine procedures to obtain this information?
And you worry that this necessary and contractually permitted collection of location data can somehow lead to the U.S. Government taking away your guns, but you won't and can't explain the connection, because none exists.