If you voted for Obama

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Do you think people should influence their kids politically? I at least waited until high school.

Where do you think the blame lies? You are OK with blaming Bush for everything under the sun, but get offended when Obama takes any blame?

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You, and Obama, are NOT centrists.

Are you shitting me that giving Obama the power to raise the ceiling is "blaming" him and forcing responsibility on him? He's the fucking president. Want me to take over? Let me know. Because then I can say all the men are hating on a woman president...

I don't know WHERE you got the idea that I'm influencing my daughter politically just because I said given the same situation she would be able to figure things out on her own...next...

I don't blame Bush for everything under the sun but I ALSO don't blame Obama for all of today's evils. Both parties share blame. That is a centrist viewpoint. Look at the BI-PARTISAN deficit reduction committee. They (ahem, Republicans and Democrats) recommended cuts to medicare/ss/defense spending and increased taxes on the wealthiest and/or closing tax loopholes. I agree.



And abso-fucking-lutely, absent a real plan to tackle the deficit/debt, the McConnell plan is a political ploy to shove responsibility off on Obama because they can't reach a compromise at this point. The Republican hope being that giving Obama responsibility for raising the debt ceiling (with supposed equal spending cuts that he's supposed to work out in a vaccuum), they can say "we didn't actually VOTE for an increase in the debt ceiling" and then they can go on to eviscerate everything he does from this point on and claim that he's operating on his own. Very convenient heading in to the 2012 election.

The Republicans are throwing in the towel and setting Obama up to take the blame because they can't agree to a deficit/debt package now.

That's why most Democrats are arguiing against the McConnell plan. It's clear political maneuvering.