03-19-2012, 11:48 PM
(03-19-2012, 10:57 PM)Cracker Wrote:(03-19-2012, 10:00 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Comparing the murder of 16 civilians outside of his military capacity and authority to how many civilians the Taliban killed in that same period is apples to oranges.
Dead kids are dead kids. Are the ones WE killed any more or less dead? Nope. It is WE, btw. I am willing to accept my part of the blame. Are you?
Who said the soldier gets a pass? He's fucked. Not even because he will pay in a military court of law, but because he killed kids. That is an automatic life-fucker.
Why should his command get a pass? They gave a baby killer a weapon. AND he was drinking on base. That is a huge no-no. You tards act like making the command (however high you have to go) pay for their part gives the soldier a pass.
I like the mommy board faux-concern I'm getting from you and user. Doesn't matter WHY it happened or if we can make it not happen again, just blame the man who transgressed and move on...
This story has more than 16 victims and more than one villian.
I disagree with you. I've never read/posted on a "mommy board", so that part is irrelevant to me.
Every time someone goes off the rails and kills people, there is a reason why he/she went off the rails and killed people. Doesn't matter where it happened or who did it, there is always cause and effect.
I read the posts objectively. Crime prevention is always prudent; for this particular type of crime or any other. I didn't see anyone suggesting otherwise. The issue right here and now is that one man took a gun in the middle of the night, went into the homes of sleeping families, and slaughtered them. Matters not to me that they are not American families or that their cultural values may be different than mine. It was not self defense and it was not part of a military action. It was one man's actions. To what degree he will be held accountable, considering mitigatiing circumstances, will be determined in court.
I think if this was a man in Los Angeles who saw his friend get shot at work and severely injured, went out drinking, and then shot down a bunch of people, your position might be different. I see them as very similar situations. I'm not minimizing the impacts of war and war zones, but this soldier was there to do a job and committed a horrendous crime in the process. You are laying a lot of weight on his bosses. Maybe that's fitting; I'd like to hear more of the story. Still doesn't change the fact that this one man killed 16 civilians by his own hand.
And, of course I'm not saying that other children who die in the area aren't as important. That's a ludicrous assertion. We are talking about the people killed by this one man, acting entirely on his own. The fact that other tragic deaths are occuring in the area doesn't minimize these 16, for me.