Entertain me...

[HairOfTheDog]

I think they've both reached what's called a nadir.

Great word. Well played.

It is a great word; had to look it up in this context. Fits.

Had only seen "nadir" before in context to astrology: nadir - the point below the observer that is directly opposite the zenith on the imaginary sphere against which celestial bodies appear to be projected



The stars and mythology sometimes entertain me; as does learning new words. Doesn't take much...