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Would better gun control help?
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(07-31-2012, 12:15 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Yes, a person has to pick up a gun, point it at someone and pull the trigger. I think everyone understands that.

I don't know what numbers you're looking at, but I googled 'annual death by guns in the U.S.' and saw that in 2005 and 2006 there were more than 12,000 homicides committed.

I know 1,786 and 12,000 are pretty close in value if you squint.

Just like an impaired driver has to get in a car, turn on the ignition, and drive it into oncoming traffic.

And wait a second... you wanted to exclude inner city gun homicides and murder/suicides earlier. I thought we were talking about crazy spree killers who use guns. I don't need to squint at anything... you need to pay better attention or decide how you want to frame your arguments consistently.

When looking at innocents killed by spree killers vs. impaired drivers killing innocents, the numbers aren't even close.

And here is where I get my data points, all for 2009.

Impaired driving http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811385.PDF

Firearm homicide http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
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Would better gun control help? - by QueenBee - 07-29-2012, 01:09 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Maggot - 07-29-2012, 01:19 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-29-2012, 10:06 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-30-2012, 08:52 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Maggot - 07-29-2012, 10:26 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-29-2012, 10:41 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by shitstorm - 07-29-2012, 11:16 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 09:27 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-31-2012, 09:40 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by shitstorm - 07-31-2012, 01:56 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-29-2012, 11:30 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Maggot - 07-29-2012, 11:41 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-29-2012, 11:46 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by shitstorm - 07-29-2012, 11:48 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-30-2012, 12:17 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by shitstorm - 07-30-2012, 12:26 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-30-2012, 10:58 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by pspence - 07-31-2012, 06:29 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Donovan - 07-30-2012, 12:34 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jibbles - 07-30-2012, 03:41 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-30-2012, 06:53 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-30-2012, 07:42 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-30-2012, 08:28 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-30-2012, 09:50 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-31-2012, 06:30 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-30-2012, 10:29 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-30-2012, 11:15 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-31-2012, 12:08 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 11:02 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 10:34 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-31-2012, 10:45 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Maggot - 07-31-2012, 10:48 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-31-2012, 10:53 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 11:11 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 11:46 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 02:09 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by pspence - 08-01-2012, 07:08 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-31-2012, 10:59 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 11:33 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Maggot - 07-31-2012, 01:50 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 02:07 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 02:27 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-31-2012, 02:30 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 02:34 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 02:33 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 02:34 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 02:45 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-31-2012, 02:49 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 02:56 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by shitstorm - 07-31-2012, 04:31 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-31-2012, 04:37 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 04:41 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 04:47 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 04:49 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by shitstorm - 07-31-2012, 04:57 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 04:39 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 02:37 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 02:41 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Duchess - 07-31-2012, 02:38 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 07-31-2012, 02:56 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by pspence - 07-31-2012, 06:55 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by sally - 07-31-2012, 07:07 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by pspence - 07-31-2012, 08:40 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 02:39 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 03:16 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 03:20 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jezreel - 07-31-2012, 03:21 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 03:51 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 04:47 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 05:01 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 05:05 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by pspence - 07-31-2012, 07:02 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-31-2012, 05:07 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 05:10 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by username - 07-31-2012, 05:14 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 05:22 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 07-31-2012, 05:44 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 07:53 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by sally - 07-31-2012, 07:11 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 08:15 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by shitstorm - 08-01-2012, 06:03 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 08:50 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Disciple - 07-31-2012, 10:11 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Riotgear - 07-31-2012, 10:18 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Disciple - 07-31-2012, 10:13 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 08-01-2012, 04:27 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 08-01-2012, 05:48 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jezreel - 08-01-2012, 08:41 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 08-02-2012, 10:55 AM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 08-02-2012, 01:35 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jezreel - 08-02-2012, 02:21 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Jimbone - 08-02-2012, 02:07 PM
RE: Would better gun control help? - by Ilyanna - 08-02-2012, 02:41 PM