08-01-2012, 05:48 AM
Disciple Wrote:Before any government can truly hobble its citizens, it must first disarm them. Shitstorm is absolutely right about that. That Genocide Chart that she put up was copyrighted by Jews for the Preservation of Gun Ownership. Ask the Jews. They know all about it. Tell THEM it can't happen and that the right to bear arms is superfluous.
Yes, please, do ask the Jews. Preferrably those who survived almost half of Europe's citizens intent on killing them. Ask them if a gun would have helped them against the Gestapo and SS. It is so bloody disrespectful to even hint that only if they had had access to guns, they would have survived the Shoah. IMO, people who do so ridicule the helplessness in the face of the cold-hearted organisation of the genocide, underestimate the complexity of mechanisms the government implemented to round them up and kill them, and ignore the overpowering malevolence of so-called 'fellow' citizens who, in most cases, didn't lift a finger to help them. ~70.000 Jews against ~69.900.000 people in Germany in 1933. They didn't stand a chance, even if every single one of them would have had a gun.
I get the reasoning behind the 2nd amendment, but honestly, anyone believing that the population of a country can defeat a government single-handedly with a few rifles hasn't really paid attention in the past few years. That doesn't mean I don't acknowledge the right to self-defense. Actually, I want all those nice, shiny, bigass weapons, too, I wanna own them, use them as I see fit, and don't have anybody tell me I may not do so, or I only may have a certain variety. My motives are purely egotistical, a mixture of survival-instinct and a fascination with explosives. I stand by these motives, and I suspect that they are at the root of all those reasons given by others, as well.
I also think, though, that if I want the right to bear whatever arms I like, I immediately lose the right to complain when someone else uses that right for whatever reason.
I have no respect for any asshole who thinks snuffing out an innocent's life because they can't deal with their's is justifiable, but the choice of weapons they use is not even making the list of problems I have with that attitude.