01-27-2014, 09:41 AM
How is altruism the overall point here, CN?
No one claimed or implied that giving leftovers to a homeless person begging for food-money was a selfless sacrifice or any thing more than a simple gesture. It's been stated over and over that nobody cares if you wouldn't make such a gesture - your choice.
You and aussie have simply been arguing the point…against absolutely nobody contending the contrary....that it’s NOT noble nor altruistic.
And, no one claimed or implied that what’s considered a simple common sense gesture or standard practice for some of us would be done with the expectation or requirement of being thanked (that's not gonna happen a lot of the time and is not the motivation in any case). Those are again your thoughts and words on the subject, not mine or anyone elses.
I don't look at people living on the streets because they're schizophrenic, PTSD sufferers, or otherwise mentally ill and refusing treatment (which accounts for the vast majority) as "bums" and "hobos" who make a city less attractive or beautiful. You do. You are not alone. Different perspectives. There are a lot of individuals and groups here who make feeding the homeless their primary mission on a volunteer basis. I do consider many of them to be generous and altruistic; I admire and appreciate what they do - those are just my feelings.
Anyway, to be really clear for you and aussie (again) upon leaving the leftovers thread, I agree with you both that handing leftovers to a person in need of food is not an act of nobility or altruism. No one ever said or implied that it was. Also, if one or both of you consider it noble or altruistic to take a homeless person out for dinner or buy him/her a meal, you have my support.
No one claimed or implied that giving leftovers to a homeless person begging for food-money was a selfless sacrifice or any thing more than a simple gesture. It's been stated over and over that nobody cares if you wouldn't make such a gesture - your choice.
You and aussie have simply been arguing the point…against absolutely nobody contending the contrary....that it’s NOT noble nor altruistic.
And, no one claimed or implied that what’s considered a simple common sense gesture or standard practice for some of us would be done with the expectation or requirement of being thanked (that's not gonna happen a lot of the time and is not the motivation in any case). Those are again your thoughts and words on the subject, not mine or anyone elses.
I don't look at people living on the streets because they're schizophrenic, PTSD sufferers, or otherwise mentally ill and refusing treatment (which accounts for the vast majority) as "bums" and "hobos" who make a city less attractive or beautiful. You do. You are not alone. Different perspectives. There are a lot of individuals and groups here who make feeding the homeless their primary mission on a volunteer basis. I do consider many of them to be generous and altruistic; I admire and appreciate what they do - those are just my feelings.
Anyway, to be really clear for you and aussie (again) upon leaving the leftovers thread, I agree with you both that handing leftovers to a person in need of food is not an act of nobility or altruism. No one ever said or implied that it was. Also, if one or both of you consider it noble or altruistic to take a homeless person out for dinner or buy him/her a meal, you have my support.