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Scumbag bikers
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(06-10-2015, 01:27 AM)Cutz Wrote: Father was an asshole. Can't believe he wasn't charged for nearly killing someone.

I believe it. Self defense / accident.

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^ Cruz got right up in front of the father, Lien, and slowed down so the bikers could take over the road. Cruz got bumped.

Then the whole group of bikers swarmed and tried to intimidate the driver; they succeeded. Lien says he was scared shitless with his wife and baby in the car and put the pedal to the metal when the bikers approached the SUV. Unfortunately, Mieses got plowed when Lien took off.

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I believe the now-paralyzed biker ^ Mieses, who seems like a decent guy, when he says he was only off his bike to check on Cruz and wasn't part of the group going at Lien.

He says he was trying to tell the other riders, most of whom he didn't know, not to get violent and ruin the ride. I agree with him that Lien is not to blame for what happened to him. He says he doesn't blame Lien and can't know what he'd do or what was in Lien's mind when a group of bikers were coming at him and his family like that.
Ref: Mieses interview: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bike...-1.1711176

It would be very difficult, IMO, to convince a jury that Lien wasn't in reasonable fear of bodily harm when he went into flight mode and hit Mieses.

Anyway, Mieses can file a civil suit against Lien for damages if he so desires. He's got a hell of an attorney, Gloria Allred. Last year Allred said that she hadn't ruled out a civil suit, but I don't think Mieses has pursued it.

That's my take based on what I've read of the incident and to the best of my understanding. What's yours Cutz?
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Scumbag bikers - by sally - 10-08-2013, 12:08 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Duchess - 10-08-2013, 12:15 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Duchess - 10-08-2013, 12:17 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 10-09-2013, 09:29 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by cladking - 10-08-2013, 06:40 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by SIXFOOTERsez - 10-09-2013, 09:44 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 10-09-2013, 06:24 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Duchess - 10-09-2013, 06:33 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by FAHQTOO - 05-17-2015, 06:57 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Duchess - 05-17-2015, 07:02 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Midwest Spy - 05-17-2015, 07:59 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Duchess - 05-18-2015, 07:22 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by FAHQTOO - 05-18-2015, 09:33 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 05-18-2015, 09:17 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Blindgreed1 - 05-18-2015, 10:55 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 05-18-2015, 10:26 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Midwest Spy - 05-18-2015, 10:31 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 05-18-2015, 11:18 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by ZEROSPHERES - 05-18-2015, 11:30 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 05-19-2015, 12:03 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 06-09-2015, 03:30 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-10-2015, 01:27 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 06-10-2015, 10:38 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-10-2015, 11:43 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 06-10-2015, 02:38 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-10-2015, 02:52 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 06-10-2015, 03:05 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Jimbone - 06-10-2015, 03:42 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-10-2015, 03:48 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-11-2015, 04:36 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 06-10-2015, 04:24 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by SIXFOOTERsez - 06-10-2015, 04:47 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-11-2015, 11:21 AM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-11-2015, 01:35 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-11-2015, 02:26 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by SIXFOOTERsez - 06-11-2015, 01:53 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by BlueTiki - 06-11-2015, 02:48 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-11-2015, 04:42 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-11-2015, 06:15 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-11-2015, 06:29 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Maggot - 06-11-2015, 06:32 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-11-2015, 06:34 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-11-2015, 06:44 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by SIXFOOTERsez - 06-11-2015, 06:56 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Carsman - 06-11-2015, 07:04 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by HairOfTheDog - 06-11-2015, 06:44 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-11-2015, 06:49 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Cutz - 06-11-2015, 06:53 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by sally - 06-11-2015, 07:11 PM
RE: Scumbag bikers - by Mohammed - 06-12-2015, 01:49 AM