06-10-2015, 02:38 PM
(06-10-2015, 11:43 AM)Cutz Wrote: My take is that the SUV ran into the back of a motorcycle in front of him because the motorcyclers had been acting like dicks and his wife was throwing food at them. So after he caused a traffic accident, he fled the scene of the accident by running over a person.
The allegations from police were that the bikers, as part of the Hollywood Block Party involving hundreds of bikers, ran red lights, stopped traffic and did wheelies and other risky stunts on the roads endangering other drivers.
Mrs. Lien threw a plum seed out the window at them, which she shouldn't have done and later said she regretted, and the bikers smashed the rear-view mirror in retaliation. That coulda been the end of it.
But, then Cruz got in front of the Liens' SUV to stop them or slow them and he got bumped by Mr. Lien. Even if you think Lien did that on purpose, it would be very difficult to prove that was in his mind when he says otherwise and video shows the bikers acting like thugs and causing a lot of chaos.
The SUV was stopped and bikers swarmed, banging at the windows with knives and hammers, and screaming that they were gonna kill Mr. Lien. Personally, I think it would have been asinine for Mr. Lien to sit there waiting for a cop to show up while a dozen pissed off bikers were attacking.
According to their testimony, the Liens were in fear for their lives and tried to get the hell out of there. I would have done the same. That's when they unfortunately hit Mieses.
They raced northward with a flat tire, exiting near the George Washington Bridge and looking for a police precinct station house and were blocked and stopped by the bikers. The bikers pulled Mr. Lien from the driver's seat and slashed and beat the hell out of him. They tried to pull Mrs. Lien out but she just kept kicking and was held in by her seat belt.
A lot of it was caught on tape and 11 of the bikers charged pleaded guilty to the assault. The two who pleaded not guilty were just convicted by a judge of second degree of assault.
I just don't see how charges against Mr. Lien were warranted, or could be proven even if you believe they were warranted. I guess Mrs. Lien could have been charged with littering or attempted assault and gotten probation or something. But, I don't personally think that would have served any purpose.