09-26-2016, 09:19 AM
Well, Cars, if your pithy "the public needs to be trained to follow PO commands or face the consequences!" wasn't in response to the two cases we're discussing or ones like them, you got some chatter to remind you what we're talking about. I don't charge by the word, so it doesn't cost you anything.
Anyway, it's not a political/partisan issue or a pro-police vs. anti-police issue. There are plenty of Republicans, Democrats and Independents who are committed to much better screening and training of POs in order to reduce deaths at the hands of cops who weren't defending their lives or the lives of others when they killed members of the community they were sworn to protect (and often later created false narratives to cover their asses and suffer no consequences).
Police aren't legally allowed or justified in killing people for not obeying 'P.O. commands' (whether that real or perceived lack of compliance is due to criminal attitude, confusion, disability or irrational fear on the part of the officer). They can only use lethal force in defense of their lives or the lives of others. Cops need to be better at distinguishing between those situations and handling them appropriately.
We need much better screening and training of police officers. Your call for more conditioning of citizens to accept that any failure to obey PO Orders has predictable consequences, including death, only increases the problem.
Anyway, it's not a political/partisan issue or a pro-police vs. anti-police issue. There are plenty of Republicans, Democrats and Independents who are committed to much better screening and training of POs in order to reduce deaths at the hands of cops who weren't defending their lives or the lives of others when they killed members of the community they were sworn to protect (and often later created false narratives to cover their asses and suffer no consequences).
Police aren't legally allowed or justified in killing people for not obeying 'P.O. commands' (whether that real or perceived lack of compliance is due to criminal attitude, confusion, disability or irrational fear on the part of the officer). They can only use lethal force in defense of their lives or the lives of others. Cops need to be better at distinguishing between those situations and handling them appropriately.
We need much better screening and training of police officers. Your call for more conditioning of citizens to accept that any failure to obey PO Orders has predictable consequences, including death, only increases the problem.