THE AMERICAN FLAG

[blueberryhill]

I think most of those who are serving or have served our country militarily do so out of patriotism and national commitment, which I respect and appreciate.

But, plenty of others do so because they like the idea of warfare, or for job opportunities, or other personal reasons.............and too many in both camps go untreated when active duty leaves them traumatized.

I've commented in a couple of the crime forum threads about how many of the mass, spree and cop killers over the last several years have been veterans.

Anyway, the flag doesn't mean the same thing to all people being served. And, the flag doesn't mean the same thing to everyone serving; that was clear during the 2016 election cycle. When candidate Trump threatened to make flag desecration a federal crime again, some active service members and veterans applauded his proposal -- they see desecrating the symbol as dangerous to national pride, disrespectful to their service, and something that should be prohibited by law.

At the same time, other current and former members of the U.S. military loudly opposed and protested Trump's proposal -- they see flag burning as constitutionally-protected free speech and expression, a key principle of what the flag means to them and why they chose to serve.

you don't know shit.

when you hold the children of a fallen soldier during his funeral, let us know how you feel.

when you go to friends house in the middle of the night to stop him from harming himself or his family, tell us all about your feelings

when you have a knock down drag out bloody knuckle fight with a friend because he doesn't know who you are and feels threatened, by all means express your feelings.

till then shut the fuck up you hypocrite.

i have done all those things more times then i care to remember. until you do that you won't have a clue what those soldiers think.

Pappy, You are a self righteous prick...you do not own the exclusive right to speak for all military personnel....i have said before I grew up next to a military reservation and worked there for years, the last 5 years before changing careers, at a military prison. CTF (Correctional Training Facility) and this was during Viet Nam era when many who were drafted went AWOL, etc.....I didn't blame them much as a mother.....Just about every week, I took a casserole to a neighbor to help out someone who had just had loved one die in VN, and at least twice a month, a co-worker (military) and/or friend was wounded or killed. I saw some after they were sent to Irwin Army Hospital to recover from some serious injuries and were unable to return to active duty.....We all have different stories and we all have a right to different perspectives. Why are you so defiant and full of rage? The insults are uncalled for....reminds me of someone in the White House.....and yes "he" is a despicable man and I don't need evidence. His behavior is on display every day for the whole World to see...You would have to be dumber than a brick to not see his obnoxious behavior....and yet you continue to badmouth Ms. Clinton....why don't you provide some proof of her lying....you read and choose to believe what fits with your agenda.....she has received a bad rap for a long time and although she is not perfect, I believe she truly cares about people, families and children. ......and we would be a hell of a lot better off with her at the helm instead of dumbass.

In summary, I think you may have a problem with women, as you seem to favor them when you hurl your illogical, insulting rhetoric on this forum.....

Please don't comment and try to impress anyone with your supreme intelligence as I just will never buy it. I am just too sweet to throw insults your way just because we disagree....try not to have a hissy fit when you post.....you will live longer....