I am NOT responsible for BROTHER joining here

[Middle Finger]

While I admit I can be a pain in the ass, as can OP, I wouldn't label either of us 'trolls'. ::dunno::

You both have served as trouble-causing trolls in threads at 24. You in both your current form and previous username. I understand your "quality" is better and more subtle or sophisticated/entertaining than a real stereotypical troll, but don't kid yourself, you and OP engaged in a lot of trolling.

See, that is why I don't post over in 24. The people over there piss me off and I think they just honestly piss off Lumpy & OP (and several others from here). I don't think these people (Lumpy and OP) just go over there to deliberately cause trouble on the forum, as that statement would imply. I think they are just mad as hell at what those asshats are saying and standing up to them... which I would probably do as well if I became active at 24.

It's not cool to label people 'trolls' just because they get angry at people and tell them off. A 'troll' causes problems just to cause problems, not because there is any merit to what they are posting, ya know?

Well I believe with full confidence that you are dead wrong about Lumpy and OP, and especially Lumpy before she was her current username at 24, when you suggest that they haven't gone go into threads just to troll. I've seen them enter threads and start threads just for that purpose plenty of times. Don't kid yourself. While they may be "right" about a lot of things they say, and while I may agree with a lot of things they have said, and while there are times they are attacked first and such, they have both STARTED trouble and drama plenty of times, and both love trouble and drama. They have both deliberately engaged in posting to just start trouble, push buttons, and even purposefully break rules. They get off on it.

They have done what you said - get angry and tell people off, AND they have trolled or posted just to stir drama. Don't be fooled. I've seen the new topics to start trouble, I've received the apologies, I've sent the warnings for the unprovoked attacks. One time I was the recipient of mental case (OP) attacking me in a real nasty fashion, unprovoked. When LMPP got banned the first time a long while back, it was because she was obviously and blatantly posting crap to start trouble.

I am not saying they are just trolls, I am saying they have definitely trolled.

If they don't admit that they have posted lots of stuff in the past just to deliberately start trouble and troll, they are full of shit and lying. They both love that I am even referring to it because they get off on it.

Look, if I was just a member, I would be tempted to do the same. I obviously appreciate that type of fighting on some level, so I am not claiming moral high ground or anything. I am just saying, let's not bullshit or be bullshitted.