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TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE / RUSSIA AGGRESSION
(10-12-2022, 08:39 AM)Piglet Wrote: The Ukraine voted to leave Russia in 1998, or something like that.   The Ukraine is a democracy, but an infant one.  Whatever its faults, it is not an excuse for Russia to invade and commit genocide.

But reading your note Sally,  genocide is ok.   The whole of eastern europe doesnt want anything to do with Russia anymore.   Russia has broken every international law, and it doesnt care.  The history of eastern europe is exactly that, the past, Russia wants to go back to the stone age.   Everything moves on whether we like it or not.

So the senseless murder and rape of children is ok?    A disturbing post, you have your wires crossed somewhere.

An Indian saying is that if you let someone put their fingertip in your mouth, you will end up with a fist down your throat, which means the Ukraine would not be the end.   Your understanding of everything is seriously flawed.

Anyway Duchess, when you come over, London and its delights is first, then Marrakech in Morrocco, with its souks and bazarres, then Egypt, the pyraminds and a boat down the nile.

Then Rome, the sistine chapel, the colloseum, the Amalfi coast, then Milan to get you dressed properly, Paris, then the south of France, for some sun and hoi polloi with dukes kings and queens.

Euromaidan was the result of more than 50 Western NGO's in Ukraine organizing "protests" because the government wasn't pro-NATO. The US embassy was orchestrating everything, and decided who would be included in the new government. That's the antithesis of democracy.

If you're going to discount Russian reports of atrocities then you should discount Ukrainian reports as well, and the Russian accounts go back to well before the war got underway, some of which were validated by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. Additionally, some of the Ukrainian battalions wear Nazi insignia, and these were deployed in the Donbass region and used against the civilian population.

these events are very similar to how ethnic hostilities were exploited in the Balkans after the collapse of the Soviet Union, which erupted into full scale war while the West sat on it's fat fucking ass and did nothing while the Serbian military was in the open on the highway. Claimed it wasn't any of their business, but they'd poured gasoline on the region and lit the match that set it ablaze. Now they're using Ukraine just like they used Kosovo, as a proxy to fight against a nation that has vast resources just waiting to be exploited by the Western oligarchs that finance every single Western government, a good number of which reside in The City of London, which is governed by a private corporation.

You want to talk about the British secrecy jurisdictions that manage more than half of all of the dirty money in this world, administered by "prestigious" accounting firms like KPMG and Delloite? This is the backbone of Western imperialism, and puts the lie to everything you've said about this conflict being about the defense of "democracy". In the new empire you let the natives fly their own flag and have free and fair "elections", bought and paid for by those mentioned above. And yes, The US is a big part of this operation, but The City of London calls the shots.

I've got tons of documentation to back up every word I've said, all you've got are reports by Western propaganda outlets owned by Western oligarchs, none of which are the tiniest bit more ethical/objective than their Eastern counterparts.
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RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Maggot - 03-03-2014, 11:02 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-03-2014, 11:19 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-03-2014, 06:43 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-03-2014, 07:05 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Maggot - 03-03-2014, 08:58 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Cynical Ninja - 03-04-2014, 02:23 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-04-2014, 02:29 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Maggot - 03-04-2014, 02:35 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-04-2014, 02:47 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Cynical Ninja - 03-04-2014, 03:21 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by aussiefriend - 03-04-2014, 05:37 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Adub - 03-04-2014, 09:56 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-06-2014, 11:43 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-06-2014, 02:04 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-06-2014, 02:32 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-07-2014, 08:40 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-07-2014, 09:00 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by sally - 10-13-2022, 01:56 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Maggot - 03-07-2014, 10:17 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-08-2014, 07:25 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-08-2014, 01:55 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-08-2014, 02:07 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by kevvome - 03-08-2014, 04:14 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by kevvome - 03-08-2014, 04:11 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-08-2014, 04:28 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by kevvome - 03-09-2014, 06:16 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-09-2014, 03:47 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-13-2014, 08:45 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-14-2014, 07:58 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Midwest Spy - 03-14-2014, 09:10 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-14-2014, 09:18 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-14-2014, 06:14 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-15-2014, 01:17 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-16-2014, 05:48 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-24-2014, 10:08 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-28-2014, 09:35 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 04-15-2014, 10:21 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 04-16-2014, 06:46 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 04-25-2014, 10:39 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 04-25-2014, 10:47 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by BlueTiki - 04-25-2014, 11:46 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 05-25-2014, 05:13 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 05-27-2014, 10:53 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 06-18-2014, 02:25 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 07-20-2014, 12:49 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 07-26-2014, 01:01 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 07-26-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 07-29-2014, 11:35 AM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 08-28-2014, 12:38 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Carsman - 08-28-2014, 02:25 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Midwest Spy - 08-28-2014, 02:30 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 09-11-2014, 05:56 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 02-11-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Maggot - 02-11-2015, 05:48 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by blueberryhill - 02-11-2015, 08:11 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 02-12-2015, 06:31 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by HairOfTheDog - 03-01-2015, 03:18 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Maggot - 03-01-2015, 07:04 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by crash - 03-01-2015, 11:42 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Blindgreed1 - 03-02-2015, 01:37 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by crash - 03-02-2015, 05:59 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Blindgreed1 - 03-02-2015, 06:16 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE - by Duchess - 03-02-2015, 07:27 PM
RE: TURMOIL IN THE UKRAINE / RUSSIA AGGRESSION - by rothschild - 10-12-2022, 12:43 PM