2024 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES

[rothschild]

He’s setting it up just like he did in 2020 (if I lose, it will be a RIGGED election). This is why the description of him as a “real and present threat to democracy” isn’t just hyperbole. He is. Fucking loon.

That presumes that genocide is compatible with democracy, and that our gov't is acting in accordance with the will of the people.

What does Trump forecasting a rigged election if he loses have to do with genocide? 

U already said u wouldn’t support either candidate because u don’t trust that they’ll stop the genocide of the Palestinians. I understand that although between Harris and Trump I think Harris is more likely to take a stronger stance against Israel. Trump already has a history of supporting Israel and is courting Jewish voters with the inference that Harris is somehow antisemitic (his words “I don’t know how any Jew could vote for her?”). 

What form of government is NOT “compatible” with genocide? Authoritarian? Nope. Socialist? Mmmm, warmer but still not a hard no there. Don’t really get ur point.

You imply we are a democratic society to which Trump is a threat. I don't see a person like Trump being on the ballot in a truly democratic society but let's go with that. What's the probability that a people who've established a democratic society would be inclined to support genocide? Somewhere in the vicinity of zero, I think. Nazi Germany is probably best characterized as ultranationalism, and Israel fits that bill to a tee. A military state. In our case, a military state pretending to be a democracy. Israel also happens to be an apartheid state.

Democracy is something I associate with philosophical enlightenment, and military states with philosophical bankruptcy.

You’re this.close to giving me a headache.   I think our democracy is far, FAR from perfect (have I mentioned campaign finance reform? How ‘bout that electoral college?) but I still view it as a democracy (granted with a large dose of militarism in our foreign policy. But I’m not an isolationist. I think we’ve participated in wars and killings that weren’t justified but I believe in maintaining a strong military for when we rightfully need to protect our interests overseas and aggression by other countries (like Russia and definitely concerned about China/Taiwan. I don’t support genocide or Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians (even before 10/7). There should be a two state solution although the counter argument to that has always been that many in the region don’t believe that Israel even has a right to exist so how do you negotiate from that starting point? Sucks. But what’s happening in Gaza and the West Bank is just wrong and I think the U.S. needs to do more to put a stop to it.

Re defending interests abroad, military aggression is a serious crime under international law. It's the primary threat to international peace and security, which falls under the purview of the UN Security Council, of which the US is a permanent member having veto power. If the US has so little confidence in the UNSC why does it maintain permanent member status? That strikes me as an arrangement that guarantees the UN will be impotent with respect to resolving serious international crises, and undermines the rule of law.

When you're a superpower the rule of law is something to be imposed on those nations that aren't superpowers, not to be applied consistently and without double standards. It's called gunboat diplomacy, the antithesis of actual diplomacy and free trade. We create a world that is hostile and chaotic, and use that as a pretext for foreign intervention.

As for Russia, it's human rights record compares favorably to the US. Be happy to go into detail if you like.

What I've said holds true for all of the permanent members of the UNSC, of which there are five. They are the primary arms proliferators, they are the nations that have the greatest adverse impact on international stability. Change this arrangement and I think global peace becomes a real possibility. Superpowers are antithetical to the concept of democracy. Those few who benefit from the status quo will never admit that, obviously, because people who believe they are free never try to escape. They are subservient and are extremely easy to manage.

Have a great day.