09-14-2024, 03:54 PM
(09-13-2024, 11:47 PM)username Wrote:(09-13-2024, 07:28 PM)rothschild Wrote:(09-13-2024, 06:17 PM)username Wrote:(09-13-2024, 02:29 PM)sally Wrote: So you know nothing other than that you hate Trump? You dont know her tax plans, what she has done in California, none of that? You only know what the mainstream media tells you, correct?
...And Trump’s (possibly bloody) mass deportation ideas? IIRC they tried to crack down on illegal immigrants in Georgia once and they couldn’t get any fat ass white people willing to go off welfare to pick the fucking peaches. Our economy relies on that labor (I’m sure his resorts employ many immigrants).
When did Trump say he wants to deport legal migrants, and do we need an influx of new immigrants at this point in time, given that our economy is contracting?
What our economy absolutely depends on is capital inflow and demand for US Treasuries, both of which are declining. Dollar hegemony is over and the consequences are going to entail severe austerity. A new World War could buy some time but the writing is on the wall -- the party is over.
It’s late but what I typed was Trump plans a mass deportation of “illegal” immigrants. We can get back to how that (by itself) would cost billions of dollars just to execute if he were to attempt it on the scale that he’s talking about and the effects on the economy.
I don’t have a problem with border control. Reminder: Trump killed the strongest bi-partisan border control legislation in decades just so he could keep harping about the border for his own reelection campaign. Biden finally crumbled and signed an executive order that has significantly slowed border crossings but Trump wanted this to be a campaign issue and that’s why he’s raving like a lunatic about Haitian’s eating pets in Ohio.
Maybe that's true re Trump, but when you say our economy depends on immigrant labor, what we're really talking about is cheap labor. Would you be willing to pick peaches for the wages the growers are willing to pay? Neither would I. If the US economy depends on cheap labor to maintain the economic growth that chronic deficit spending necessitates, it is clearly not an economy that serves the interests of the 99%. It's a Ponzi Scheme that has the mandate of the federal gov't. Care to guess what the reserve requirements are right now? I think you'd be shocked. The primary purpose of our banking system is the facilitation of indebtedness. It's obvious if you're paying attention. Every time the "business cycle" reaches the inevitable contraction of the money supply the result is a massive uptick in defaults, i.e., a massive transfer of wealth to the 1%.
Let's not pretend that the Democratic Party cares about downtrodden immigrants. Flooding the nation with new "immigrants" or "refugees", or whatever you want to call them, increases the hardships of the ones that are already here, and of the poor in general. The resources available are not infinite. Poor blacks understand this very well at this point. So much for "black lives matter".
The answer to this mess, IMO, is fairly obvious. If we took the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been diverted to the cause of defending Ukrainian "democracy" and had instead invested it into modernizing the US infrastructure, America's prospects would be excellent. There would be good paying jobs for all and we could dispense with our dependency on foreign manufacturing, which is a serious threat to US national security.
This could have been done decades ago, but it goes against the interests of neoliberalism, championed by people like Milton Friedman, George Bush, and Bill Clinton. It's not "all about the economy", it's all about investor rights.
So here we are, Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris, and there is zero chance that either of them will address these fundamental inequalities that are destructive to the interests of the 99%. Millionaires who identify with the 1% are foolish because extreme economic disparity is antithetical to a healthy and vibrant economy, without which we are plagued by unnecessarily high levels of crime, poor mental health, and a host of other ailments.
This is the danger of falling into the trap of thinking it's acceptable to have to vote for candidates that are a "lesser evil". It's a downward spiral to the bottom, and it looks like we're about to arrive at our final destination. Ignorance is only bliss until you reach the point where you can no longer avoid the consequences of making poor choices. Pain is the teacher of last recourse. Adapt, or perish. Choose wisely.