8 hours ago
(Yesterday, 12:15 PM)username Wrote: Ukraine…so she was just asking to be raped based on the way she looked and the suggestive ways she was trying to get into NATO? Actually I don’t think Ukraine was ever going to get into NATO before Putin invaded. NATO was happy to string them along with that possibility “somewhere down the road and over the moon…” but it was also well known that that would give Putin severe diarrhea so nobody was in a rush over that. I gather Trump gave Ukraine some RPGs but it’s been pretty clear since the start of the invasion that Ukraine was far from militarized. You can count all the equipment they DIDN’T have based on all the weapons other nations have had to provide them since this war started. If NATO was planning some Russian invasion they sure as shit hadn’t done much of anything to prep Ukraine for that. Now however, some military hawks here and abroad think Ukraine should be allowed to join NATO immediately. And Finland and Sweden are in so how’s that working for Putin?
I don’t have an answer but I don’t blame the victim (Ukraine).
You also neglected to consider how long it took for the Russian military to overcome the Ukrainian military, and that it's initial focus was ending Ukraine's aggression against the Russian enclaves in the Donbas region. That was supposed to have been resolved in 2014, there was an agreement, Ukraine never abided by it. This is documented in the Western press. I posted an article in Newsweek about this somewhere in the Ukraine thread.
Russia has never stopped trying to negotiate an end to the conflict, The West has steadfastly refused, and the end result is that Ukraine is now largely uninhabitable given the harshness of the winters and the destruction of it's power generation and economy.
You also need to consider that Lindsey Graham stated on camera that Ukraine has about 15 trillion dollars worth of mineral wealth. The suckers will inevitably continue to believe that this debacle was about defending Ukraine's "democracy", but the obvious reality is that that was a huge crock of shit -- Which the Nuland video makes abundantly clear.