11-08-2024, 11:12 PM
(11-08-2024, 08:17 PM)username Wrote:(11-08-2024, 06:50 PM)rothschild Wrote:(11-08-2024, 05:13 PM)username Wrote:(11-08-2024, 04:01 PM)rothschild Wrote:(11-08-2024, 03:52 PM)Duchess Wrote: *snort laugh* I'm not the one who supports & defends trump.
You support and defend the party that enabled him to win.
U really want to pick apart the Democratic Party and say they are/were Trump’s “enablers”? I by NO MEANS think the Democrats are perfect (far from—they’re flawed and they have their own extremists and special interest groups and agendas). But the Republican Party is/was Trump enablers (excluding the many that broke ranks). Everyone from McConnell who called him “personally and morally responsible” for 1⁄6 to those like the Georgia governor and Ted Cruz on and on who called him a narcissistic liar and more…and fucking endorsed him anyway. They bowed to the man, not the truth and even completely reversed positions they’d taken against him previously (Vance included). And they weren’t mere “critiques” of minor character flaws. Many of them called him much worse (a liar, unfit and on and on) and yet they came back to him.
Biden should have stuck to being a transitional president and the Democrats should have then had a normal primary and probably picked a white male to run against Trump. But they didn’t and Harris did the best she could under the circumstances.
It's crazy to blame Republicans for Trump because they're the party that doesn't care at all about the working class. The working class gave the Rust Belt to Trump, not the Republicans. Hillary called them deplorables because they'd had enough of a party that had abandoned them and gave her the middle finger, and she 100% deserved it. Unfortunately, the Democrats didn't send the Clintons packing, and the Party has sunk further and further into the gutter. All it has left is to fling shit at Trump and his supporters while America has become a train wreck, so it lost. And no, a white, beta male would not have done any better than Harris did because it would have been the same ol' shit getting flung.
Meh. Clinton called Trump supporters deplorables once and it was stupid on her part but she was watching a guy gaining traction who even early on was pretty deplorable. His Access Hollywood fiasco, his calls to “lock her up” in his campaign, the name calling he engaged in with his primary opponents and others…there was more that I can’t recall now but I definitely thought at the time that there was no way he’d get elected and yet he did. He’s sunk to far more lows since (and been impeached and convicted and didn’t peacefully transfer power) so if words matter, Hillary’s “deplorables” comments should be inconsequential at this point. I think Trump won the poor and middle class on the price of eggs and the wealthy because they’re hoping for tax cuts.
And I SAW people willingly admit on tv that they didn’t think a woman is capable of running the country. If you think that her gender (at minimum—combined with her race) wasn’t a factor you’re a sexist and racist denialist. I don’t know for sure that a white male would have beat Trump but you also can’t prove that her race and sex didn’t contribute to her loss.
Biden took the poor and middle class for granted just like Clinton took the Rust Belt for granted. His comments leading up to the election were as disgusting as Trump's. "If you don't know who you're voting for then you're not black." That's the Democratic Party with the mask off. Doesn't have any real concern for racial inequality, just a lot of drum beating and pouring gasoline on the animosity that was incited. The quality of life didn't improve for poor blacks under Biden, it got worse.
As for Harris, for every person that didn't vote for her because of race and sex, four or five more would have voted for her if the Democratic Party had improved the quality of life for ordinary Americans. You're basically gaslighting people for not voting for a black woman for the sake of voting for a black woman. That's how bankrupt the Democratic Party and it's supporters are.