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Don’t think Biden will be able to serve his term…
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(01-21-2022, 09:08 AM)pyropappy Wrote:
(01-20-2022, 09:25 PM)rothschild Wrote:
(01-20-2022, 06:09 PM)Clang McFly Wrote:
(01-20-2022, 04:17 PM)rothschild Wrote: I think guillotines are both necessary and appropriate at this point in time.

Not unless we turned into wine swilling, cheese eating surrender monkeys(aka the French).

That moniker was the result of France allowing Hitler to remilitarize the Rhineland in spite of having the most powerful military in Europe, and building the Maginot Line in spite of de Gaulle -- a military genius -- correctly predicting that WWII would mark the advent of mobile warfare. He wrote a book on the subject, which ironically enough, the Nazis took the time to read. The French high command probably shat themselves when they realized German tanks had gone through the Ardennes, which they'd foolishly thought were impassable.

All that money pissed away on static defenses, when they could have trounced Germany at the Rhineland with no losses to speak of, and saved tens of millions of lives in the process. No greater example of national ignominy that I'm aware of, and probably never will be.

So yeah, the French Revolution had nothing whatsoever to do with the French being "surrender monkeys".

Your points are correct, but history also teaches us another important lesson. There are huge differences between the American and French Revolutions. In my opinion, the differences can be boiled down to 1 word. The American Revolution was about freedom, the rights of man. The French Revolution was about freedom as well, but it referred to the rights of men: liberty, fraternity and equality. Again, in my opinion this concept was in Europe's DNA because the "collective" was needed to gain some freedom from the ruling class and the church. The Magna Carta is the root of communism in my opinion.


The results of those two events are light years apart. 

The founders established as the basic tenant of our system of government, a Constitutional Republic, was the right of the individual. The worlds GDP exploded, and this country became the most powerful nation on the planet.

The French established Democracy (a government flatly rejected by our founders) as their tenant: that lead to mob rule and eventually to the guillotine. Once the mob killed off the nobles their blood lust made them look for new candidates. They chose to behead any one brave enough to oppose their form of despotism. The French just traded ruling classes; that is why they are in the mess they are in. Our founders tried to warn them, but they didn't listen. Had it not been for Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, the mob would have beheaded Thomas Paine who went to help them establish their new government.

We are in this mess today because communists have been slowly over the past 125 years been nudging us toward democracy. Our founders were brilliant men who understood human nature, they gave us the tools we need to save ourselves. We better use them because the next civil war just might lead us to mob rule; remember the adage - be careful what you wish for.

As a history major, I am astonished you would advocate for violence over a peaceful resolution. The American Revolution is the exception to the rule; violence rarely works as a solution.

The French aristocracy got what they richly deserved, but I otherwise agree with your characterization of the French Revolution, which wasn't a revolution at all. I do disagree with your take on the American Revolution, which I think was ultimately lost: we won some important battles, but never drove the stake through the heart of the Bank of England, which led to the Civil War, the assassination of Lincoln, and passage of the Federal Reserve Act, which quickly led to the death of our constitutional republic. It was over long before Obama showed up. "progressivism" has been around for a long time, Pappy. Even the quintessential American progressive, John Dewey, called out FDR for his New Deal, in an essay titled On Land Rent: it was welfare for the rich and powerful, primarily, and was followed by his gold confiscation.

Do you know where that gold went, Pappy? The Bank of England.
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RE: Don’t think Biden will be able to serve his term… - by rothschild - 01-21-2022, 03:30 PM