THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

[blueberryhill]

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Why is the pro-life/choice issue a religious issue? Isn't it just a personal opinion/belief issue? I am not religious but I am pro life. Religion has nothing to do with my decision.

It has been made a religious by the extreme right wing evangelist zealots.....and not appropriate for the President or Vice President to be a part of either "side." Right now it is legal in the USA.....Go to another thread to debate your beliefs, etc....this thread is the "Trump Presidency" and as such, should not get in the mix.. Is that too difficult to comprehend? I know I have interjected my beliefs on this thread, but trying to get some of you people to stay focused on the issue of Gov't and Church is a waste of time. Your personal beliefs are not the issue in this particular comment which Duchess first commented that she couldn't believe Pence was speaker at the pro-life march......Vice President was totally inappropriate and the fact that some of you don't get this, validates my point that some of you are just obtuse.
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Abortion may be necessary in the world we live in, but that doesn't mean it's morally right.

..I am not going to debate abortion on here with you Sally. Obviously, you are unable to walk in the shoes of others or ever had to make this decision or to live in a society where women died from having an abortion and the only birth control available was the rhythm method. Your self-righteous attitude is quite off putting to me..so you continue to live in your perfect little world but remember the pain that others went through so that you could have the rights you have today. I would like to know if you stop at the birth of the child and I would assume if you feel abortion (I am not pro abortion, but I am pro choice) is morally wrong, then you also don't mind paying more in taxes to cover birth control for poor women, to pay more taxes to feed, clothe, and pay medical bills of this baby. Yes, I am repeating myself....but some pro-life people vote against increase in education budgets, medical care, food programs, etc. for children...also some of the biggest proponents of leaving gun laws alone are among the so called pro-lifers.....My morality is none of your business, Sally and that is the point. Nor is it the business of the Government......Why is this issue bigger than the Gov't telling you what to do? Since when did the sexual lives of people and failure or lack of birth control ends in an unwanted pregnancy, become a lesser event in what the Gov't does or doesn't do. Maybe you just have to live through an earlier time to understand where I am coming from, but i do get tired of debating this with people who for one reason or another, cannot put themselves in the shoes of another person to try to gain insight into all that goes into the horrendous experience a woman goes through when she thinks she has no other choice than having an abortion and the whole country gets to make that decision for you. Not in my World......(Longest sentence in history)..

ETA: Now Trump is a good example of a morally deficient person and that is a fact.....So? Why are you making these distinctions in answer to original comment about separation of Church and State.....Yikes!

FFS woman, she's trying to have a civil debate with you and all you do is come back and berate her because she doesn't agree with everything you say.
You hate everyone who doesn't march to your fucking beat.
Here's a suggestion...why don't you quit assuming that you have any clue about what anybody in here has been through. Why don't you stop with your "walk a mile in their shoes" bullshit. How do you know if any woman on here has walked that mile? You don't!
How would you like it I said you were one of those awful people that spit on my uncle and called him a baby killer when he got back from nam? Would you like me to ASSUME that you did that, just because of the way you lean politically?

You have no idea how nasty you really are, do you?

FQ2 i never have liked you.....Yeah, I am mean and nasty....they say it takes one to know one....and you are a mean one, too.....so just like I say to most people I don't like, Go fuck yourself. As a former counselor, I think you suck at compassion, understanding, comprehension. etc. I have experienced a lot more years of life than you have by virtue of being now old and "wise." I do know a lot of people who have suffered and I try not to judge others....What do I know about what miles someone has walked. WTF is wrong with you? You attack when someone doesn't agree with you and if someone hasn't told you that, it is because they are trying to be nice...I don't give a shit. I am old and not going to change so get over yourself.